The Christ Within

[Perry Staltic]

@tankasnowgod here are some verses on circumcision that might be helpful.

Deut 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked. KJV
Jer 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings. KJV
Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. KJV
1Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. KJV
Gal 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. KJV
Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. KJV
Gal 6:12 As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ. KJV
Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. KJV
Phil 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. KJV
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: KJV

 

[charlie]

I have said that I only recently started reading The Bible, and that is true.

You need a good teacher to guide you. The layperson can no way get to the depths of the Word that a true biblical scholar can. Then, once a scholar teaches you how to do it yourself, even greater depths are reached. If you like, I suggest doing the first 6 chapters of Genesis with the scholar I am speaking of, and prepare to have you mind blown.

 

[Perry Staltic]

@tankasnowgod you'll like this one.

Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh. Philippians 3:2

 

[milomag]

So does the KJV. No translation is perfect

There are no mistakes in the KJB. God invented languages and is capable of ensuring that his book is not marred in translation. Which version are you studying? I will let you know some mistakes in it, so you can put your trust in God's pure, preserved words, instead. It's a big claim to say God gave us a book with mistakes in it. The Bible version issue is no small matter and Christiandumb is in such a mess today because of all the satanic, corrupt, perversions that men put their trust in. God doesn't make mistakes, men make mistakes when they correct God.

 

[damngoodcoffee]

There are no mistakes in the KJB. God invented languages and is capable of ensuring that his book is not marred in translation. Which version are you studying? I will let you know some mistakes in it, so you can put your trust in God's pure, preserved words, instead. It's a big claim to say God gave us a book with mistakes in it. The Bible version issue is no small matter and Christiandumb is in such a mess today because of all the satanic, corrupt, perversions that men put their trust in. God doesn't make mistakes, men make mistakes when they correct God.

Gone, absolutely gone. These fundamentalists are total NPC's. Incredible. Why do you hang on the RPF? Ray hated your ilk. And he was a complete heretic by your standards.

 

[damngoodcoffee]

@milomag You worship MEN. Disgusting.

 

[Perry Staltic]

There are no mistakes in the KJB. God invented languages and is capable of ensuring that his book is not marred in translation. Which version are you studying? I will let you know some mistakes in it, so you can put your trust in God's pure, preserved words, instead

I use Hebrew and Greek interlinears. What mistakes are in these?

Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software

Free Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software ISA (Interlinear Scripture Analyzer)

www.scripture4all.org

The Apostolic Bible Polyglot

The Apostolic Bible Polyglot is to the Internet what the Gutenberg Bible was to printing.

apostolicbible.com

 

[joaquin]

There are no mistakes in the KJB. God invented languages and is capable of ensuring that his book is not marred in translation. Which version are you studying? I will let you know some mistakes in it, so you can put your trust in God's pure, preserved words, instead. It's a big claim to say God gave us a book with mistakes in it. The Bible version issue is no small matter and Christiandumb is in such a mess today because of all the satanic, corrupt, perversions that men put their trust in. God doesn't make mistakes, men make mistakes when they correct God.

You are correct. There are no mistakes in the KJV. The lie that there were mistakes in the KJV is one that got started in the mid 1800s. Westcott and Hort were worse than infidels. The sinaiticus was a forgery and not even an old one.

 

[TheSir]

The lie that there were mistakes in the KJV is one that got started in the mid 1800s

Interestingly, this is the same period in which the ideas about Biblical infallibility and perfection were born, paving way to the since then popularized view of the Bible as an idol to be worshiped. Question: which one was the reaction?

 

[joaquin]

Interestingly, this is the same period in which the ideas about Biblical infallibility and perfection were born, paving way to the since then popularized view of the Bible as an idol to be worshiped. Question: which one was the reaction?

You're wrong, the idea of infallibility did not arise then. It was always.

 

[TheSir]

You're wrong, the idea of infallibility did not arise then. It was always.

The Church fathers did not argue for infallibility of the scriptures. The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church did not argue for it either. Even the modern Catholic position is that the Bible is infallible only in its ability to lead people to salvation. As said, infallibility was never seen as official theological doctrine until the last few centuries.

Furthermore the kind of perfect and all-encompassing infallibility you and @milomag are advocating for is a fringe position within the Christendom, one that is held mostly by KJV fanatics and some Protestants. Lastly, not even the Bible itself makes a case for its own infallibility or perfection.

Are you not projecting the qualities of Jesus onto the Bible? Did God give us his perfect son, or his perfect book? How can something that is not of the essence of God be perfect? Instead of trinity, should we perhaps talk about quadrity: the father, the son, the holy spirit and the book?

 

[Momma]

It is difficult to argue with Biblical truth or understanding, if the Bible is not relevant or infallible to the people you are countering.
Regardless:
What does this mean?

The Word Became Flesh​

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

 

[joaquin]

The Church fathers did not argue for infallibility of the scriptures. The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church did not argue for it either. Even the modern Catholic position is that the Bible is infallible only in its ability to lead people to salvation. As said, infallibility was never seen as official theological doctrine until the last few centuries.

You either don't know history or have no respect for it. First thing, the RCC is the apostate church. Second, it was from the Catholic church that the attempt to forge manuscripts and pervert the bible in order to thwart the Reformation.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God", 2 Tim 6:16

Furthermore the kind of perfect and all-encompassing infallibility you and @milomag are advocating for is a fringe position within the Christendom, one that is held mostly by KJV fanatics and some Protestants. Lastly, not even the Bible itself makes a case for its own infallibility or perfection.

You are wrong again. Its only considered a "fringe position" from those that are enemies of the cross. And the word of God does indeed claim infallibility.

Are you not projecting the qualities of Jesus onto the Bible? Did God give us his perfect son, or his perfect book? How can something that is not of the essence of God be perfect? Instead of trinity, should we perhaps talk about quadrity: the father, the son, the holy spirit and the book?

Your word salad here is just gObBlYgOok.

 

[joaquin]

@TheSir

No purgatory. No reincarnation.
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" Hebrews 9:27

 

[Perry Staltic]

What does this mean?

The Word Became Flesh​

It means the eternal image of the father became flesh and blood. The bible is not the word; it is a physical object; the word is spirit.

 

[joaquin]

Exodus 31:17 "for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth"

 

[Momma]

It means the eternal image of the father became flesh and blood. The bible is not the word; it is a physical object; the word is spirit.

The Word of God here is Jesus.

 

[Perry Staltic]

Exodus 31:17 "for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth"

Yet the KJV says it was finished on (literally "in") the 7th day. The Septuagint says it was finished on (literally "in") the 6th day

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Genesis 2:2 (KJV)

And God finished on the sixth day his works which he made, and he rested on the seventh day from all his works which he made. Genesis 2:2 (LXX)

 

[Perry Staltic]

The Word of God here is Jesus.

Jesus is not the bible; the bible is not Jesus

 

[Momma]

Jesus is not the bible; the bible is not Jesus

Oh really?
Never-mind.