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I was never low on b12 in blood tests, but supplementing methyl+adenosyl b12 gave me more energy, more appetite and better erections. Cyano b12 did nothing - no positive or negative effects.Could you specify in which way it was not useful? As in tests it did not show up, you had negative reactions (stress or againtion) to cyanocobalamin or you just didn't feel anything from cyanocobalamin.
What happened when you took metylcobalamin + adenosylcobalamin 1:1?
Sounds like overmethylation. I think you need enough folate and some other nutrients for b12 to work properly. I would not supplement any form of folate, though.I see.
If I supplement with sublingual methylcobalamin I get agitations, feel adrenaline-like, anti-erection.
Haven't tried cyanocobalamin on it's own.
I don't remember your posts. Have you ever tried actually chelating copper? I remember someone said he did it and his copper went up.Any more ideas why my copper is not going up ?
I really hope it’s a digestion thing
No, never heard of that beforeI don't remember your posts. Have you ever tried actually chelating copper? I remember someone said he did it and his copper went up.
strange, do you remember what he used to chelate copper ?I don't remember your posts. Have you ever tried actually chelating copper? I remember someone said he did it and his copper went up.
That was from one of gbold's quotes. He didn't say what that person used to chelate copper.strange, do you remember what he used to chelate copper ?
This is a known side effect of aspirin.Was taking 500 mg daily. It left me with permanent tinnitus. I wouldn't advise you to try it at all. There are lots of options when it comes to chelating copper. If you are sure about you are being toxic in copper, just take manganese, molybdenum and zinc with meals.
Except, it's said to be temporary. Yet I have this for more than a year and it didn't improve at all. Permanent.This is a known side effect of aspirin.
Hmm, maybe it's not related?Except, it's said to be temporary. Yet I have this for more than a year and it didn't improve at all. Permanent.
What else were you taking at the time?
Hmm, maybe it's not related?
This is really interesting.@BearWithMe @Astolfo
[Glycoproteins in rat blood serum and tissues and thiamine saturation of the body] - PubMed
In blood serum and tissues of rats with alimentary and antimetabolic thiamin deficiencies content of glycoproteins was determined. The alimentary B1-avitaminosis caused a decrease in content of ceruloplasmin, hexosamines and sialic acids in blood serum and also of hexosamines in liver tissue and...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"In blood serum and tissues of rats with alimentary and antimetabolic thiamin deficiencies content of glycoproteins was determined. The alimentary B1-avitaminosis caused a decrease in content of ceruloplasmin, hexosamines and sialic acids in blood serum and also of hexosamines in liver tissue and aorta. In dificiency of thiamin, caused by a single administration of hydroxythiamin, content of hexosamines and sialic acids were decreased in liver, pancreas and heart; in blood serum content of ceruloplasmin was decreased but that of glycoproteins was increased. Thiamin increased content of glycoproteins and sialic acids in blood serum and the content of sialic acids in liver tissue, but it decreased content of hexosamines in liver and pancreas. Content of the metabolites studied in animals, maintained on avitaminous diet, was normalized by means of repeated administration of thiamin during four weeks."
B1 deficiency is also associated with Wilson's syndrome. I will study this further.
Let me know the results of your researchThis is really interesting.
I have many symptoms of b1 deficiency, but my diet was always very high in b1. Also, I don't respond to b1 supplements well, even to the coenzymated ones.
I think this might be a sign of some bigger thiamine metabolism problem, rather than a simple deficiency.
Will also do some research.
Awesome find, thank you!