Thanks, from the gonadin thread:
Androgenic effect of honeybee drone milk in castrated rats: roles of methyl palmitate and methyl oleate. - PubMed - NCBI
"The oestrogenic effect of a fraction of DM has recently been reported in rats. However, no information is available on the androgenic effects of DM."
"The crude DM increased the relative weights of the androgen-dependent organs and the plasma testosterone level in castrated rats and these actions were flutamide-sensitive. DM increased the tissue mRNA and protein level of SLAP, providing further evidence of its androgen-like character."
Drone milk: boosts testosterone and has an anabolic effect too
Not sure if Royal Jelly wouldn't be estrogenic though, ain't estrogens associated with abnormal growth/cell division? The queen is massive.
The estrogenic fraction was isolated and it is NOT the fatty acids we use in Gonadin.
Raw drone milk of honeybees elicits uterotrophic effect in rats: evidence for estrogenic activity. - PubMed - NCBI
"...The active compound after the last fractionation was identified by the nuclear magnetic resonance and mass spectrometry techniques as E-dec-2-enedioic acid, which is very similar to the fatty acids with estrogenic activity that were previously isolated from royal jelly. These results lead us to suppose that E-dec-2-enedioic acid is responsible for the estrogen-like effect of DM. This appears to be the first report on the pharmacological effects of DM and E-dec-2-enedioic acid in mammals."