Strongbad said:- The only issue with thyroid is that TSH must be lowered to less than 1 if possible. So I'll drink more coffee+lots of sugar to make that happen.
What was your TSH number, Strong?
I'm sorry if I missed it.
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Strongbad said:- The only issue with thyroid is that TSH must be lowered to less than 1 if possible. So I'll drink more coffee+lots of sugar to make that happen.
ballomar said:EIRE24 said:I agree with you. Recently I tried to go starch free and it absolutely ruined me. Broke out in acne, weak, tired and stomach cramps all the time. Since adding back in starch in the form of rice and potatoes everything is starting to pick up again.
When you went starch free, did you substitute the calories you were getting from starch with sugar or other sources? If not you were undereating.
I started to include starch because it was the only way I could hit my calorie goals.
YuraCZ said:It's funny I have exactly the same chloride serum as Strongbad.. I know that my digestion is f***ed up...
Strongbad said:
I don't have smell my whole life..jimmyquick said:YuraCZ said:It's funny I have exactly the same chloride serum as Strongbad.. I know that my digestion is f***ed up...
Actually, I just looked my up six months ago. It was freaking 95!
It was awful. Food would just sit in my stomach. I'd eat a single banana and feel full for house. It was almost impossible to get enough calories. Took a while but may want to try any of this that I mentioned above.
Smelling the food a few times to generate more saliva
Looks of chewing (tried to digest most of the food in my mouth before swallowing)
Salt
Taurine based foods, plus supplements each meal
Betaine HCL (although I think Haidut mentioned dangers of this in the long run but it def helped food go down faster) Id take one or two if I felt the food not moving ha.
And of course Thyroid - this made the biggest difference by far.
haidut said:I don't know about betaine test, but I would NOT take betaine. It is a methyl donor, so it increases methylation, which may lead to cancer in the long run. It is also used in the synthesis of methionine, which is a bad amino acid in Peat-world.
A much safer option, with many other benefits, is taurine. Here is a study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21294907
haidut said:Based on Ray's writings about caffeine being a surrogate for thyroid hormone, this study showed that caffeine suppresses both TSH and growth hormone (GH). Ingestion of Cynoplus or other equivalent product containing both T4 and T3 has been shown to have the same effects. The effective human dosages were 300mg-400mg caffeine for TSH suppression and 500mg-600mg for GH suppression.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6104718
"...Caffeine lowered serum TSH and GH in a dose-dependent manner with ED50 values of 30 and approximately 50 mg/kg, respectively. TSH levels were depressed 1 to 6 hr after injection and correlated with serum caffeine levels greater than 20 micrograms/ml. The decrease in serum TSH was followed by decreases in serum 3,3',5-triiodothyroxine and thyroxine 4 hr after caffeine administration. Theophylline and theobromine had effects similar to those of caffeine on hormone levels."
robertf said:If the problem started again it means you are still underdosing.
The idea is to slowly increase the dose until you feel a slight acidic burn, this is your threshhold, then back down just under this point.
Strongbad said:I try to take as little supplement as possible, since I over-supplemented during the beginning months of Peating (it didn't work out well). But in this case, I decided to buy Betaine HCL this morning and popped in 5 capsules. Wow, it made a huge difference! The pain/discomfort disappeared and it feels so relaxing. But then, I popped in another capsule and the symptoms started again! So I overdosed by 1 capsule. Will stay on 5 for now, then and slowly lower the dosage as things get better...
Will eventually omit betaine HCL supplement in favor of betaine HCL food like beets. But for now, it's a quick fix.
You guys are right, everything starts with the digestion. I mean, what's the point of gulping lots of Peatarian's food if stomach can't digest and absorb the nutrient? No wonder my thyroid doesn't get any better. It lacks nutrient due to insufficient digestion.
I really thank you guys for recommending me to take the blood test and analyzing it in detail. It's so less frustrating when you know what the issues are and how to fix them. Previously, I had no direction, I was confused, I followed the diet but had no improvement. At least now, I know what to work on.
I have a similar abdomen issue before I started PEATING. I ate very little carbs and sugars, especially for how active I am. When I added sugars (mango, raw honey, palm sugar, etc.) the feeling there usually goes away. My stress levels are at an all time low whenever I have enough sugar. If you are avoiding PUFAs and still find a slow metabolism then you should up your coconut oil consumption.Now I have frequent discomfort on my lower right abdomen area. Whenever I eat moderate amount, get slightly stressed out (even by playing Candy Crush game), or giving a little "push" while urinating gives me discomfort on the abdomen. I also have random adrenaline rush and adrenal fatigue (yes, I'm aware it's because of hypothyroidism) every now and then. My liver also feel sluggish handling all these calories that I've been consuming, 2500-3000+ daily.
I avoid PUFA, I've been hardcore on Peating diet. I consume fructose, milk, saturated fat food, lots of carrots and underground vegetables like onions, cucumber and ginger etc. I also gulp lots of sodium carbonate (baking soda) and salt to reduce prolactin. I take aspirins, niacinamide, vitamins and lots of the supplements that're covered in the forum. I've been all-out Peating since Day 1. 2500-3000+ calories per day.
And what do I get? Weak upper 95 F to mid 96F body temp. If I'm lucky, I'll hit mid 97F, but that's if I get extremely active the entire day and consume load tons of calories. I also gain lots of weight, bloated stomach, water retention problem, sluggish digestion. And yes, more hair shed...