Obi-wan
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doing 8 drops of Gonadin also. More aromatase inhibition.
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I see what your saying, definetly not s perfect fix; damning the river to revert the flow doesnt seem like a good idea. Perhaps the valves in the spermatic vein havent collapsed but some type of pressure is being put on the vein from other organs? If the valves have collapsed could it be due to similar mechanisms as with heart disease? If so couldnt we fix it with vit c, amino acids and removal of the inflammatory stimulus (endotoxin, PUFA, heavy metals) over time? The valve issue is glossed over so many times in the article but its the most relevant aspect haha. The reductionism of the authors is stifling.
I believe I have been estrogen dominant for quit awhile. Have been doing higher doses of progesterone to become progesterone dominant, which I think I am at this point. This has actually shrunk my prostate. Originally it was big like a full balloon. Now it is soft but with hard nodules (fibrous?) Next step is to adjust the doses to become androgen dominant since I am a male. I am thinking lowering progesterone and at the same time increasing Preg. At the same time maintaining Andro... If this works then DHT + Progesterone IS the answer. Nothing like being a guinea pig. Lots of theory gets thrown around on the forum with studies. Here is a look at application...I thought such amounts of progesterone were anti androgenic?
The reason I asked was I think you said in the Andro post it has a half life of about 1/2 hourThe studies I have seen say 1uM/L inhibit aromatase by more than 90% so 2mg - 3mg daily is enough for estrogen control.
The reason I asked was I think you said in the Andro post it has a half life of about 1/2 hour
Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. Recently, ketotifen and lisuride got me out of a state I could not understand. I did not even expect that adrenalin issues would completely resolve as well. Getting out of the excess noradrenalin,, bowel issues, anemia and exercise intolerance allowed the pattern to shift--allowing my lungs to clear out and start working better. Thus, waking up after a solid (no adrenalin) night's sleep and able to train. Everything is working better. I think it is something more than a "bandaid" cure IF the body get start shifting toward greater disambiguation. But no doubt, there is more to resolve with gut.@haidut
Perhaps endotoxin is the etiologic factor behind the connection between hairloss, heart disease and prostate cancer/ BPH. Perhaps the sclerosing effect of TLR4 is whats leading to the damage in the valves of the testes resulting in the backflow of blood pooling excess androgens in the prostate. The TLR4 activation is also whats leading to the impedus for inflammation of the vasculature leading to heart disease and then a lack of vit c is blocking repair or not enough vit c is available for all the repair needed. (On a side note perhaps the absence of vit c in humans is due to a shift in digestion to absorption as opposed to fermentation leading to a lower vit c requirment with a lower endotoxing load then fermenting animals?) With hairloss the TLR4 fibrosis effect is leading to excessive fibrosis of the galea aponeurotica and superficial blood supply to the scalp.
The drug ketotifen may actuallt serve as the interim cure, atleast from the standpoint of "first do no harm" for hairloss/ heart disease/ prostate cancer until the colonic flora can be made more desireable. Also, the link between starch consumption and gram negative endotoxin producing bacteria in the flora is huge.
This is tangential, but I think this also applies to obesity as well. The state of obesity seems to mirror that of factory farmed, grain fed cattle with the size of organism and the etiologies. I think the hormonal pathways you describe are indicators or signals of the underlying issue (i.e. Adrenal upregulation and excess cortisol) but arent the direct issues themselves. (Obviously, starvation and exercise stress play a role in the hormonal pathway issues, as does PUFA. But I see the first two as more accessory and PUFA like a propagator or amplifier of whatever inflammation is present).
If someone decides to apply progesterone + androsterone + K2 on the testicles, what would be a good ratio of them to ensure good anti-cortisol and pro-androgen activities? I am worried about progesterone anti-androgenity effect.I think progesterone + androsterone would be enough but some extra pregnenolone usually helps with any endpoint steroid by protecting from imbalances and ensuring a lower dose does more.
If someone decides to apply progesterone + androsterone + K2 on the testicles, what would be a good ratio of them to ensure good anti-cortisol and pro-androgen activities? I am worried about progesterone anti-androgenity effect.
Cholesterol (cyproheptadine increases cholesterol) is protective against prostate cancer or problems ... What really damages prostate is estrogen...dht(high cholesterol diet actually raises dht) raises as protective physiological measureI'm pretty sure my rat's prostate problems diminished when I put him back on Cypro. Rat reported that his prostate just felt less hard and his PSA went down from 4.5 to 3.5.
Hello reosirens,Cholesterol (cyproheptadine increases cholesterol) is protective against prostate cancer or problems ... What really damages prostate is estrogen...dht(high cholesterol diet actually raises dht) raises as protective physiological measure
YesHello reosirens,
Just wanted to clarify your statement. Estrogen damages prostate. DHT protects it. Cholesterol increases DHT
I agree! Do we agree that it is the LDL portion of cholesterol that increases DHT?
doesn't Progesterone and DHT compete for "receptors"?I believe I have been estrogen dominant for quit awhile. Have been doing higher doses of progesterone to become progesterone dominant, which I think I am at this point. This has actually shrunk my prostate. Originally it was big like a full balloon. Now it is soft but with hard nodules (fibrous?) Next step is to adjust the doses to become androgen dominant since I am a male. I am thinking lowering progesterone and at the same time increasing Preg. At the same time maintaining Andro... If this works then DHT + Progesterone IS the answer. Nothing like being a guinea pig. Lots of theory gets thrown around on the forum with studies. Here is a look at application...
doesn't Progesterone and DHT compete for "receptors"?
Also see my latest post in this topic where I doubt the safety of IP6+Inositol:
What Do You Know About IP6/IP-6/inositol Hexaphosphate/phytate/phytic Acid?
And see here a proposed cancer treatment using potassium ascorbate with ribose, underlined with years of research by Dr. Pantellini and his researching institute:
Potassium Ascorbate With Ribose For Cancer (With Cell Level Explanation Inside) Possible Treatment
Interesting, would like to get @Travis thoughts on this. A low sodium high potassium diet would help (as I eat a banana and drink my Cocoa powder and cinnamon coffee while writing this)