Okay so I'm back with a mix of very good and bad experiences. I posted elsewhere about reacting badly to the liposomal C (adrenaline response) so I abandoned that within the first week. Otherwise, every morning I've been taking 1 tsp of ceylon cinnamon (to lower ammonia) and 1mg of molybdenum (to lower sulfur). I was keeping my diet overall low in sulfur without being overly paranoid. This combination seemed to pretty much completely resolve what I'd been referring to for years as my "histamine intolerance". My brain fog and anxiety went away, my skin became extra clear, my face just looked all around a million time healthier, most signs of inflammation were disappearing. I could even tolerate things like wearing perfume which had been unthinkable for the last 6-7 years. I was even eating a high starch diet with no problems.Because of all this I got emboldened to try supplementing generously with gelatin, thinking the histamine levels wouldn't be too much of a problem anymore and I could actually start getting some healing benefit. Within 2 days of starting this my health started to spiral again, culminating in a new symptom of significant pain in the veins of my feet and legs, which appeared much more visible (color wise, not bulging/varicose yet other than extra vascularity in my feet where the veins are already more prominent). I'm trying to sort though if it was only the gelatin that did this or if the other supplements might be contributing. Today the pain got so bad I started taking some oregano oil to lower endotoxin, and took some vit A, B1, and B2 to block some of the endotoxin signals as well, as I thought this would probably help lower some of the burden on my body. I'm still waiting for improvement even though it's been a good week since I took the gelatin.
Gelatin is one of the highest histamine foods there is and definitely the highest histamine food I've eaten in a long time, especially in such a massive quantity (multiple tablespoons per day for at least 4 days.) Histamine increases permeability of the veins and widens them - it could be that I basically had a histamine overflow of epic proportions but that the other supplements I'm taking prevented all of the usual symptoms from coming back in full force - without the full blown anxiety etc I wasn't getting the warning to back off the extremely gelatin until it was at the point that I was having severe symptoms that I otherwise would never see because I'd usually back off before it got to that point.
If that isn't the whole story I'm concerned that maybe the molybdenum (or even cinnamon) could be interfering with some minerals or otherwise impairing circulation/vein health somehow. But I'd been doing so well up to that point that it just seems strange. It could also be that the high starch diet finally came back to bite me, but it seems like quite a coincidence that it suddenly became a problem as soon as I took the gelatin, with no warning signs up to that point. I'm hoping it's just taking a while to stabilize, but if things don't improve I will have to reevaluate everything as the pain in my legs is alarming, and once varicose veins show up it's hard to do much about them, so I'm trying to avoid a sudden disintegration. It's frustrating to have basically finally experienced life as a normal person and then to have it ripped away very abruptly. For now I think I will lower starch, continue to keep sulfur low and see where I'm at in the next day or 2.
Edit: Upon reflecting more I think I did several things at once that caused the crash and burn. After starting with gelatin I moved to (again, large amounts of) glycine when I thought the histamine was the issue - but glycine seems to be a problem for people with sulfur intolerance in itself. (It's actually possible the glycine content was more of a problem with the gelatin than the histamine) I also tried experimenting with pea protein which should show how cocky I'd gotten, and to boot there were some herbs and things in that protein powder that I think were actually high sulfur as well (chlorella?). I also briefly ran out of molybdenum at this inopportune time. Gonna try to just get back in the saddle and hope my body evens out soon enough.
All of this was precipitated by me worrying about getting enough hq protein (since I can't have dairy etc), but at the end of the day chicken is probably the best option for me, and I don't seem to need tons of protein to feel fine.
Gelatin is one of the highest histamine foods there is and definitely the highest histamine food I've eaten in a long time, especially in such a massive quantity (multiple tablespoons per day for at least 4 days.) Histamine increases permeability of the veins and widens them - it could be that I basically had a histamine overflow of epic proportions but that the other supplements I'm taking prevented all of the usual symptoms from coming back in full force - without the full blown anxiety etc I wasn't getting the warning to back off the extremely gelatin until it was at the point that I was having severe symptoms that I otherwise would never see because I'd usually back off before it got to that point.
If that isn't the whole story I'm concerned that maybe the molybdenum (or even cinnamon) could be interfering with some minerals or otherwise impairing circulation/vein health somehow. But I'd been doing so well up to that point that it just seems strange. It could also be that the high starch diet finally came back to bite me, but it seems like quite a coincidence that it suddenly became a problem as soon as I took the gelatin, with no warning signs up to that point. I'm hoping it's just taking a while to stabilize, but if things don't improve I will have to reevaluate everything as the pain in my legs is alarming, and once varicose veins show up it's hard to do much about them, so I'm trying to avoid a sudden disintegration. It's frustrating to have basically finally experienced life as a normal person and then to have it ripped away very abruptly. For now I think I will lower starch, continue to keep sulfur low and see where I'm at in the next day or 2.
Edit: Upon reflecting more I think I did several things at once that caused the crash and burn. After starting with gelatin I moved to (again, large amounts of) glycine when I thought the histamine was the issue - but glycine seems to be a problem for people with sulfur intolerance in itself. (It's actually possible the glycine content was more of a problem with the gelatin than the histamine) I also tried experimenting with pea protein which should show how cocky I'd gotten, and to boot there were some herbs and things in that protein powder that I think were actually high sulfur as well (chlorella?). I also briefly ran out of molybdenum at this inopportune time. Gonna try to just get back in the saddle and hope my body evens out soon enough.
All of this was precipitated by me worrying about getting enough hq protein (since I can't have dairy etc), but at the end of the day chicken is probably the best option for me, and I don't seem to need tons of protein to feel fine.
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