Peating made me fat. Vitamin K1 (phylloquinone) is reversing it

[ddjd]

in the studies you posted, was it all K1 specifically in the form of phylloquinone?

no it was in the form of readthestudiesyourself

 

[TAG145]

no it was in the form of readthestudiesyourself

So you've read all the studies, posted highlights of them but just using generic "VK", then posted that the more beneficial form is phylloquinone, but then can't answer that question? Interesting. When I get around to reading all of them, I'll confirm my theory.

 

[ddjd]

So you've read all the studies, posted highlights of them but just using generic "VK", then posted that the more beneficial form is phylloquinone, but then can't answer that question? Interesting. When I get around to reading all of them, I'll confirm my theory.

You obviously haven't read through the whole post and replies. I'm not going to spoon feed you the information you want

 

[Aad]

K1 phylloquinone and K2 (MK4), both are able to significantly annihilate fat deposits:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49811496_Effects_of_long-term_vitamin_K-1_phylloquinone_or_vitamin_K-2_menaquinone-4_supplementation_on_body_composition_and_serum_parameters_in_rats

 

[iLoveSugar]

Is Vitamin K1 (phylloquinone) better than k2?

 

[Dr. B]

K1 phylloquinone and K2 (MK4), both are able to significantly annihilate fat deposits:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49811496_Effects_of_long-term_vitamin_K-1_phylloquinone_or_vitamin_K-2_menaquinone-4_supplementation_on_body_composition_and_serum_parameters_in_rats

What kind of dosage is needed daily? Does dietary K2 from milk have the same benefif

 

[youngsinatra]

Does anyone get dry mouth from vitamin K?
Has a significant anticholinergic effect for me.

 

[orangebear]

So I've been taking the K1 for almost a week. I was also getting over a cold so I don't know what to attribute to that vs the K1, but here are a few things that seem to have changed. I have lost a bit of weight: about 2lb. My muscle tightness seems to have been relieved somewhat. I feel more tired at bedtime but falling asleep takes a tad longer (I also have been going to bed rather late for various reasons which messes with my sleep). My mood seems to be calmer most of the time.

As for my digestion, it seems that I've experienced less intestinal discomfort most of the time, but I might get mild cramps or other uncomfortable sensations right before having to poop. My stool has become less loose over these days but it also seems that I'm pooping less in the past two days. So far it seems to be a bit mixed with digestion; hopefully it's just my microbiome changing and my body adjusting, but I hope there isn't a bile flow issue building. If anyone has any experience with K1 causing constipation, let me know. I'm not sure that's what it is yet, but I'm watching the trend closely.

I started with 1/day, then after 2 days went up to 2/day and then 3/day the day after and have stayed there. I don't know if I went too fast. Usually I start slow and don't change the dose for a week, but I was a bit eager to get going here.

 

[lilsticky]

What aspects of Peating cause the fat gain? What about his articles and claims of sugar, whether table sugar or honey or fruits, being less fattening than starches. What type of foods did you eat day to day while Peating

milk is high calorie

 

[BRENBAIL]

This is where I get nervous about restricting the diet of greens, as greens have Vitamin K1. If I'm restricting the greens to avoid beta carotene, where else can I get Vitamin K in the diet?

 

[orangebear]

This is where I get nervous about restricting the diet of greens, as greens have Vitamin K1. If I'm restricting the greens to avoid beta carotene, where else can I get Vitamin K in the diet?

I’ve been thinking about that since I saw this thread. I thought it was the folate in asparagus that improved how I feel but perhaps it’s the K1. Asparagus is the only green I still eat but I don’t eat it every day.

 

[ddjd]

I’ve been thinking about that since I saw this thread. I thought it was the folate in asparagus that improved how I feel but perhaps it’s the K1. Asparagus is the only green I still eat but I don’t eat it every day.

 

[ddjd]

So I've been taking the K1 for almost a week. I was also getting over a cold so I don't know what to attribute to that vs the K1, but here are a few things that seem to have changed. I have lost a bit of weight: about 2lb. My muscle tightness seems to have been relieved somewhat. I feel more tired at bedtime but falling asleep takes a tad longer (I also have been going to bed rather late for various reasons which messes with my sleep). My mood seems to be calmer most of the time.

As for my digestion, it seems that I've experienced less intestinal discomfort most of the time, but I might get mild cramps or other uncomfortable sensations right before having to poop. My stool has become less loose over these days but it also seems that I'm pooping less in the past two days. So far it seems to be a bit mixed with digestion; hopefully it's just my microbiome changing and my body adjusting, but I hope there isn't a bile flow issue building. If anyone has any experience with K1 causing constipation, let me know. I'm not sure that's what it is yet, but I'm watching the trend closely.

I started with 1/day, then after 2 days went up to 2/day and then 3/day the day after and have stayed there. I don't know if I went too fast. Usually I start slow and don't change the dose for a week, but I was a bit eager to get going here.

Appreciate this log of your observations. I've reduced the dose down to 1 tablet every two days. I feel like I've reached saturation and that's a good maintenance dose

 

[ddjd]

Little update. Still losing weight. Maintenance dose is around 1 or 2 tablets a week - so big reduction.

I've noticed alongside chamomile tea (apigenin known to boost StaR enzyme) and zinc an even bigger boost to testosterone so worth trying

 

[dukesbobby777]

milk is high calorie

Yeah it probably is if you were 'doing it wrong'. Were you drinking the full fat milk that more resembles cream?

 

[charlie]

quickly halt shivering/shaking

Reminds me of copper toxicity.

milk is high calorie

Actually, milk is high toxin. The calories in, calories out mythical unicorn is dead.

When you know, you know.


View: https://twitter.com/Will_of_Europa/status/1784349235137143246

 

[orangebear]

So I’m not losing weight but it’s remained fairly stable over the weeks I’ve been experimenting with K1. I take 2–3 tablets per day, depending on whether I’m also having asparagus that day or not. The swelling in my hands, feet, and ankles has reduced somewhat and I feel better than before starting the K1, though to be fair I did just go through a flu and then a cold before starting K1. I also added zinc back in a couple weeks ago and it increased detox to uncomfortable levels so I’ve had to play with the dose and stabilized it around 7mg. My takeaways so far is that my case is rather complicated and I don’t react to things as typically as others (I’ve had signs since my late teens that something was wrong so I’m guessing a lot of stored toxicity) but K1 is certainly a useful tool in my toolbox. I probably need more time and to find other missing pieces of the puzzle.