movebetter
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thanks for this information . It makes a lot of sense and I will look into it more closely. so are you saying you will not only eat low fat but also lower carbs to keep your calories within that range? What about protein I've been hearing that as ray peat got older he reduced his protein to no more than 50 grams a day. Do you have any opinion about protein?Sorry for taking so long to reply mb.
Low energy , fatigue can be caused by a lot of different things. My energy levels dropped as I got older.
Sleep apnea, sluggish digestion, NAFLD etc can cause being tired.
IMHO the three I listed are all food related illnesses.
How to Calculate Your Metabolism, According to a Dietitian
Learn how many calories you burn each day using this simple equation.www.eatingwell.com
The formula in the above article says my Base Metabolic Rate is 1788 calories a day, or 75 calories an hour.
My experience is that almost any amount above that and I gain weight . Keto, Atkins, Peatish makes no difference.
The calories in excess of that (in your case 2800) have to be stored-and the liver only has so much ability to store energy- the blood has only so much space to carry trigs...Where do the extra calories go?
I need to stress I am not Anti-Peat. I strongly believe in what he had said and written.
My issue is with people's interpretation of what he meant.
When we read about no weight gain in study X with an ad libitum diet of sugar , some assume that calories do not matter as long as it is sugar.
But even Peat says that if you gain weight on his milk and OJ diet, go to low fat milk. Hence calories matter.
We know- from reading these boards that we can only use 3 ounces of protein at a time (beyond that and the protein creates ammonia). Again, where does the rest of that 12 oz ribeye go?
What I am attempting to try now- is timing. Instead of three meals of 400-400-1000 calories, I will attempt 150-250 calories every two hours or so.
Maybe longer if the meal is meat based. I think that the large meal itself slows the body down.
I will let you know how it works out.
So in closing, it is not just fat restriction (I did VERY VERY low fat, high carb with nothing to show for it), but total calorie restriction. The calories we do consume
should avoid PUFA and starch. And if you avoid starch you will need to eat more frequently.
here is what i are yesterday and it is pretty similar to what I've been eating for the last few weeks.
Fat 32 g, Protein 72 grams, carbohydrates 475 grams, Total calories about 2400,
I was just reading an article about depression by ray peat. here is the quote that I found which was a bit surprising to me. "A large carbohydrate meal increases the ratio of tryptophan to the competing amino acids, and it has been proposed that this can shift the body’s balance toward increased serotonin. In an animal study, bromocriptine, which shifts the balance away from serotonin, reduced obesity and insulin and free fatty acids, and improved glucose tolerance." this sounds to me like a large carbohydrate meal could cause fatigue and depression and gained weight. Have you heard of anything about bromocriptine being helpful for depression or fatigue?
Just to be clear my question about that related to not feeding cancer. What Georgie said was that fat feeds cancer and if you have cancer you need to be on a low fat diet. He said no more than 15% of your calories should come from fat. I do have a slow growing cancer so that's why I am concerned.
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