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Evelynqa said:If the PUFAs in GJ are so bad why every time I drink one (parsley, celery, romaine, apple) my skin looks visible better, I have no blemishes and my hair grows like crazy (a lot of baby hair after drinking every day GJ for week) ?
cliff said:You have to remeber though the effects of PUFA are more long term, this is why some people can see benefits with fish oil and nuts/seeds at first.
narouz said:it may take a long time to reverse that f**ked-up-ness...?
(emphasis mine)cliff said:narouz said:it may take a long time to reverse that f**ked-up-ness...?
If you have a high concentration of PUFA stored in your tissues it could potentially take awhile, it takes about 4 years to replace all the fats in your tissues. Following ray's guidelines to minimize free fatty acids can help negate most of the harmful effects of PUFA stored in the tissue.
cliff said:That's the general gist of it.
milkpsychic said:This is an interesting post for me b/c I was just thinking about juicing beets again. I had such good results with this, although I was juicing asparagus with it. Supposedly you shouldn't juice beets alone b/c they have a poweful reaction in the body. I was told not to juice beets b/c of pufa but the amount must be very negligible compared to the benefit,especially since I have so much sat. fat in my diet. Beside the small amount of pufa, can anyone think of a reason not to juice beets or can anyone think of something else that would be good to juice with it? I hate eating beets, I don't enjoy it at all. Does asparagus have a lot of goitrogens?
milkpsychic said:Oh yeah. forgot about that beta carotene thing but I wonder how long does it take to build up. Could a weekly juicing really be problematic? I did the juicing thing for a long time, close to a year and it really helped me a lot on many levels with energy and other things. Maybe b/c I didn't do every day but just a couple of times per week.
Evelynqa said:If the PUFAs in GJ are so bad why every time I drink one (parsley, celery, romaine, apple) my skin looks visible better, I have no blemishes and my hair grows like crazy (a lot of baby hair after drinking every day GJ for week) ?
pboy said:From my experience, juicing is just not worth the time and effort for the most part, except for wheatgrass...its just so packed with unique nutrition that its worth it. All other
vegetables provide only menial amounts of minerals that can be gotten from other sources, are expensive, annoying, don't taste good...and really people just do it because its supposed to be good for them but really the benefit people get from juicing is from avoiding worse things and/or actually getting becoming hydrated with quality water, unless its wheatgrass, which unlike other veg, is very high in choline, also iodine and Vitamin C, making it worth it in my opinion.
Green Juices will not harm you and are not toxic...unless the fact that you believe you must have them and waste time and money and effort consuming them which leads to stress reactions and mental tripping. If you can't secure calcium from any other source, then alfalfa juice comes into play as well...but other than that all other veg are basically a waste of time! (Im not saying they don't contain nutrition, but its not particularly unique, and getting that nutrition from vegetables instead of other sources is just less enjoyable and generally a waste of money)
and thats just one of the reasons. Yes I've heard vegans try to refute that with a very weak argument.Alfalfa Sprouts
Alfalfa sprouts contain approximately 1.5% canavanine, a substance which, when fed to monkeys, causes a severe lupus erythematosus-like syndrome. (In humans, lupus is an autoimmune disease.) Canavanine is an analog for the amino acid arginine, and takes its place when incorporated into proteins. However, alfalfa that is cooked by autoclaving (i.e., subjected to pressure-cooking) doesn't induce this effect [Malinow 1982, Malinow 1984].
Note here that the monkeys were fed semi-purified diets, with a canavanine content of 1-2%, versus a typical canavanine content of 1.5% (dry weight--that is, when completely dehydrated) for alfalfa sprouts [Malinow 1982]. Thus, although it would be very difficult for a human to eat enough fresh alfalfa sprouts to ingest even 1% canavanine, individuals should be aware of the potential risks, and consume (or not consume) alfalfa sprouts accordingly. (In particular, those rawists who juice sprouts should probably strictly limit or avoid the consumption of alfalfa sprout juice, due to the concentration effect that results from juicing.)