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Caffeine: A vitamin-like nutrient, or adaptogen. Questions about tea and coffee, cancer and other degenerative diseases, and the hormones.
You are not supposed to megadose coffee. And coffee + keto is obviously bad since you don't have any carbs to burn. Coffee raises metabolism. If there is nothing or not enough to metabolize you can guess what happens next.
Burning fat causes saggy appearence since stress hormones are involved in that process which ultimately catabolize your tissues.
Liver has a ton of copper. Is that not enough to meet the need? Why the need to supplement?
@AlexanderCPPR
Because keto diet cult and that lifestyle is pro inflammatory in a big way and saggy skin is a sign of systemic inflammation moving towards death.
I randomly found this on instagram just now for you.
Yes leaner but bad skin, less hair, more greys and calls himself fat adapted.
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Makes no sense, autophagy & lack of carbs are what keeps one longevive and youthful
If that is true than Atkins should be alive and thriving right now. Yet he died at 72, way earlier than even people on the standard american diet of Twinkies and fries. Many people on Ray Peat Forum are here because these low carb ideas you are proposing destroyed their health and Peat proposes the exact opposite of what you are saying.
Not talking about coffee right now, I would just like to see you refute his ideas on sugar. It seems you haven't really informed yourself about his research?
You are comparing someone who's over 80 to someone in his 50s ? I can tell you why Tom Cruise looks good. He has a low stress millionaire lifestyle and probably spends a good amount of time on private islands and the like.As we know that dr. Ray Peat looks very old and not very healthy and he surely follows his own diet.
Compared to a guy like Tom Cruise who looks like this at age of 52, defying common sense... we can say that Tom Cruise (check the photo below) has the best diet in the world, yet we don't know what he does to look like that.
Where are these people you speak of ? who got bad health from low carb ?
You're getting a lot of good feedback from some great posters here. They're trying to guide you to Ray's work so you can learn at your own pace instead of making a Reader's Digest version. Even just reading the first 5 articles on raypeat.com that look interesting would be a good guidestone.How is it going ill on low carb ? I know people who fast for years and look the same, there are tons of people on OMAD who reverse aging, there are tons of people on FASTING who slow down aging, studies shown increase in telomeres after fasted states... as we are repairing ourselves when in autophagy... why would one not fast ?! what is the evidence that makes you think it s bad ?
What minerals were relevant? Any protein (meats, etc) or particular kinds?I had some gray hair and dont have them anymore. I took alot of minerals, copper and proteins. I am 36 year old, grey hair are gone forabout 10 years. My sister is younger 2 years, she has some gray hair, and she follows usuall diet, no supplements.
All minerals that are in a regular list to use: magnesium, calcium, copper, trace minerals, all i could get my hands on, and i went on high protein diet, a bit like keto, just lower in fat: pork, cheese, beef. ,supplements were generic, proteons cheap, some whey powder. I was dieting a lot before, and i went on higher calories, from 1400 to 1800/2000. It wasnt my goal , it just happened, i actually wanted more energy. Also Q10, carnitine,there was this website in my country homosanitus.lt, where they are big on minerals, they actually are against Pufas, but they are on keto side, but only saturated fat, also succinic acid, i didnt use that one. As i said, it was a side effect the return of hair color.What minerals were relevant? Any protein (meats, etc) or particular kinds?