Kyle M
Member
- Joined
- Mar 20, 2016
- Messages
- 1,407
I think it's an interesting experiment, good luck and post how it goes.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Click Here if you want to upgrade your account
If you were able to post but cannot do so now, send an email to admin at raypeatforum dot com and include your username and we will fix that right up for you.
This. One day might not be enough data to draw a sufficient conclusion.It's a pretty complex system, maybe over time of using it to increase metabolism you can alter your FA profile and other endogenous chemical thyroid blockers and obtain more flexibility. I wouldn't take one day of a crash as your ultimate fate.
+1Increasing your metabolism long term is a way of life, and can be difficult.
+1
I have on been at this since April 2015, but can attest to realizing that this must be a LONG term play and not the quick fix low carb/Paleo promises (I came from this mindset). I have given myself 5 years.
I have noticed with myself and my clients that changing a body from stress/emergency driven system to energy generative system does need a lot of fructose/sucrose. When I have pushed and forced my metabolism up with out proper reserves and without enough calories, I have crashed and had to again reboot. Long and slow seems to be the best for me.
Anyway, feeling your pain. Wishing you the best.
YES @Tarmander it does Party time - lol.Us long timers! Doesn't it feel great when you figure something out and you feel that incremental improvement? Few of those a year is all I need.
YES @Tarmander it does :) Party time - lol.
The other day I circled back around to tracking my biomarkers for a few days to see where I was at and measured 98.3 temps in the day!!! Woot! First time since I began have I had a temp that high - started at 95•, 96• - after three or four months was at 97• which seemed like a win at the time. I am trying to do this without thyroid and using diet, sucrose/fructose, coffee, occasional aspirin, and regular progesterone as my main tools atm. I also use occasionally: niacinimide, Haidut's Vit e, Vit k2, lapodin.
Thank you for the acknowledgement
@MyUsernameHere
Richfield? I thought he used T3 temporarily during initial reset, but not certain.I know there was that body temp reset guy, can't remember his name, which showed that very short term thyroid supplementation doesn't affect longer term output. I'm pretty sure he was using T2 though so no idea there.
Speculating, maybe you could avoid the rebound by trying smaller amounts, so it doesn't trigger your endogenous defence mechanisms? You maybe don't need to have enough energy to be bouncing around, though I sure miss having energy like that too. I'm trying to figure this out too. I'd be happy with a gentle upward trend myself. I started at (uneven) pieces less than 1mcg, no big effect, but maybe a subtle one. After a while tried 2-3 mcg doses - I had one good day the first time I took as much as 3-4 of those doses (probably 8-10 mcg total for the day on top of my NDT). Then down again the next days.I added 15 mcg of T3 to my usual 50 mcg of T4 throughout the day and by the evening I was transformed.
No Richfield isn't pro thyroid st all.
His story in that link confirms he used T3 for a couple of days during his initial reset, and I think it is saying some T4 too.
His story in that link confirms he used T3 for a couple of days during his initial reset, and I think it is saying some T4 too.
But he didn't just let the decompensation happen afterwards - he was persistent about getting his temps back up by various means any time they fell.
OK. Yes, I see what you mean. I haven't learned about the effects of T2.I was thinking of Dan when I mentioned T2. Just do a search in the document for "T2"
Hey Tarmander,It is probably more likely that you simply burned through your available glycogen and minerals. This is very natural. The car slows down when it gets low on fuel. This concept is something I have learned from years of messing around with peat supplements. The more you push your metabolism, the more it slows itself down to compensate for the lack of usable materials. Increasing your metabolism long term is a way of life, and can be difficult. I feel your pain with the compensation, it can make you feel hopeless.
Hey Tarmander,
People tend to think it is only the lack of calories/nutrients that set the brakes on when using thyroid. I think, and this is a speculation, I can't prove or disprove it, that it is not only that. If your liver and kidneys, lymph system, etc... cannot clear all the metabolic detritus a high metabolism produces, they are gonna halt the metabolism no matter how many nutrients and glycogen you have. Don't you think so ?