Velve921
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In the past I believe you wrote that you took 1 week off at a time from using certain steroids, maybe I'll try that time frame of taking a break from Pansterone and Androsterone and see how I feel.
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In the past I believe you wrote that you took 1 week off at a time from using certain steroids, maybe I'll try that time frame of taking a break from Pansterone and Androsterone and see how I feel.
I do take some time off, but it is more because I feel decreased intensity in effects and I don't want to push my DHT beyond the range, which happened before progesterone and DHT levels and my doctor does not like it.
Any idea what could cause the decrease in effects ? I remember haidut reported this and still had over the range dht levels from it.
@haidut , here in Mexico i can get legally on most important Pharmacies: Proviron, Primoteston, Deca Durabolin and Nebido.
Proviron comes in a blister with 10 pills, 25mg each; Primoteston is one ampule with 1ml, which contains 250mg T Enan; and Deca is one amp with 50 mg of the nandrolone decanoate; and Nebido is one ampule with 4ml of 1000 mg of testosterone undecanoate.
When you say DHT, Proviron applies to it ? , do you recommend 4-7mg of primoteston/nebido topically ? lets say i can put the mentioned dose on my skin , then over it the Pansteron, i am thinking the DMSO in it, help the primo/nebido to go inside my body, whta you think ?
I have been using androsterone and Pansterone to overcome ED, but i get stress reactions instead specially with Pansterone, i am using 1 drop or 2 pansteron in the day after breakfast and 1 drop androsterone at night after dinner. I have notice a reduction in irritability and stress reaction after reading your threads many times, that eating well, increasing sugar reduce those negative symptons.
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Proviron is probably OK as DHT replacement but I think the dose of 25mg daily may be too high for most people and suppress estrogen too much. I think something like 5mg Proviron and 10mg T daily would be more than enough for most people. I don't know much about the other steroids you mentioned.
People almost give their rats too high a dose of hormones and prohormones
@haidut
Would giving a rat a mix of 5a-DHP,Androsterone and DHEA further potentiate benefits? I was even thinking of adding K2 into the mix.
Something like 3mg K2/3mg DHEA/3mg Pregnenolone on the testes, 2mg androsterone on the chest and 2mg 5a DHP on the shoulders.
how well would
dhea
dht
androsterone
combine ?
I've been playing with pansterone and androsterone, effects have been a bit inconsistent with pansterone alone (I only tried it for 2-3 days though) so I quickly added androsterone. 6 drops pansterone (2 on each leg and 2 on scrotum) had been negative .
On the first day of the duet, 3 drops pansterone + 1 drop androsterone did not produce particular effects, I was just sedated which in my case is redundant , the next day I took 4 drops of pansterone + 2 drops of androsterone before bed and slept well, I was very calm today , which has pros and cons (no crazy energy to use), more emotionally stable (not getting irritated or frustrated as quick). I did an other 4 + 2 today after a big meal and felt really warm, I had to take a quick nap too, erection appeared and stayed on for longer than usual (it often happens after a good lunch before the body gently relaxes into a nap).
I will continue to experiment some more, ideally I'd like to switch to a sporadic use of the supplements to maintain healthy levels of androgens.
Is there any scenario where this combination of Androsterone and DHEA would lead to a loss of libido? Perhaps through a negative feedback loop of some kind?
If estrogen is driver too low then it can, yes. That's why I would stick to the dose of androsterone/DHEA mentioned in the threads and Peat's recommendations - i.e. 10mg - 15mg of each steroid daily. For many people even 5mg of each would do. It is important not to overdo it, and I would measure DHEA-S and DHT levels every once in a while to confirm nothing crazy is going on.