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I first heard about Ray Peat from a pheromone discussion forum. Some people posting here might know me as NP17. I've seen that some people are interested in pheromones, beginning with 11-keto dht and now with androsterone. I've personally tested dozens of single pheromones and commercial blends and reported on them, so I thought I would offer my knowledge to anyone that has any questions.
11-keto dht is unknown in the pheromones world, but androsterone is one of the most extensively tested pheromones. It is usually the base in blends that are supposed to produce dominance or status (alpha male), or attracting younger women. Androsterone projects a feeling of security, confidence, fitness, protection, and masculinity. Androsterone is not sexual and doesn't create arousal. Look for prolonged eye contact as a sign that someone is being influenced by androsterone. I've never overdosed on androsterone, but it may produce irritability.
Usually pheromones are mixed with a carrier of alcohol or dipropylene glycol so that they lift off the skin and are smelled by other people. A normal dose of androsterone is about 5 ug but can go up to 100 ug in combination with other pheromones that would prevent an overdose. Since haidut's androsterone is rubbed in and doesn't have a carrier, there is probably no risk of overdose at a normal dose. A person does not need to consciously perceive the smell for it to work. I don't recommend combining DMSO with any cologne or lotion. Possibly the androsterone can come out of your skin through your sweat after you apply it, either at the place you rubbed it in, or elsewhere, but this is untested.
The effects are usually subtle, and they can't make anyone do anything that they wouldn't otherwise be open to do. It's not like a drug that can alter someone's senses or behavior.
11-keto dht is unknown in the pheromones world, but androsterone is one of the most extensively tested pheromones. It is usually the base in blends that are supposed to produce dominance or status (alpha male), or attracting younger women. Androsterone projects a feeling of security, confidence, fitness, protection, and masculinity. Androsterone is not sexual and doesn't create arousal. Look for prolonged eye contact as a sign that someone is being influenced by androsterone. I've never overdosed on androsterone, but it may produce irritability.
Usually pheromones are mixed with a carrier of alcohol or dipropylene glycol so that they lift off the skin and are smelled by other people. A normal dose of androsterone is about 5 ug but can go up to 100 ug in combination with other pheromones that would prevent an overdose. Since haidut's androsterone is rubbed in and doesn't have a carrier, there is probably no risk of overdose at a normal dose. A person does not need to consciously perceive the smell for it to work. I don't recommend combining DMSO with any cologne or lotion. Possibly the androsterone can come out of your skin through your sweat after you apply it, either at the place you rubbed it in, or elsewhere, but this is untested.
The effects are usually subtle, and they can't make anyone do anything that they wouldn't otherwise be open to do. It's not like a drug that can alter someone's senses or behavior.