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Well, abdominal fat continues increasing. Waist=43 and Weight=237 now, which is worrying me and it's kind of stressful.
Any updates in the last couple of months? How are you doing with your abdominal fat?
I don't post much but I thought this deserved a bump for all of the people who are struggling and for new peeps. It is INVALUABLE info regarding the liver and overall health even tho the title refers to abdominal fat.
I've been following some Peat principals for about 4 years. In those 4 years I tried most of the supplements that are talked about and most dietary principles for my situation.
However nothing really worked well for me until I cleaned up my liver-which was always normal per lab results. I am finally starting to feel good/normal after about 15 years of health misery.
Read at least Haiduts posts if you can't slog through the whole 9 pages.
I re-read this periodically to remind myself.
My 2cents.
@honeybee What specifically worked for you to fix your liver? A certain amount of caffeine per day? K2?
I used Thorne k2 drops and caffeine or coffee (whichever convenient ) every morning for about 4 weeks at the beginning of this year.@honeybee What specifically worked for you to fix your liver? A certain amount of caffeine per day? K2?
Coffee supplementation to a high fat diet significantly reversed levels of cholesterol (p<0.001), alanine aminotransferase (an enzyme which levels increase in the blood when the liver is damaged) (p<0.05), amount of fat in the liver cells (steatosis) (p<0.001) and ballooning degeneration (p<0.05). The combination of coffee and a high fat diet also reduced weight gain over time (p=0.028) in the mice. The study results suggest that coffee supplementation could cause variations in the intestinal tight junctions, which regulate the permeability of the intestine.
The scientists also showed how coffee protects against NAFLD by raising levels of a protein called Zonulin (ZO)-1, which lessens the permeability of the gut.1 Experts believe that increased gut permeability contributes to liver injury and worsens NAFLD
Caffeine REVERSES fatty liver and potentially leaky gut.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160413083851.htm
I've personally experienced how coffee is much better tolerated by me, rather than caffeine pills on their ownNot quite, coffee reverses those things, not caffeine. They used decaffeinated coffee in that article you linked.
"Group one received a standard diet, group two had a high fat diet and group three was given a high fat diet plus a decaffeinated coffee solution."
Same for me. Though coffee does amp me up--caffeine pills are a whole other level.I've personally experienced how coffee is much better tolerated by me, rather than caffeine pills on their own
Hey @honeybee any chance you could link specifically to haiduts post on liver?I don't post much but I thought this deserved a bump for all of the people who are struggling and for new peeps. It is INVALUABLE info regarding the liver and overall health even tho the title refers to abdominal fat.
I've been following some Peat principals for about 4 years. In those 4 years I tried most of the supplements that are talked about and most dietary principles for my situation.
However nothing really worked well for me until I cleaned up my liver-which was always normal per lab results. I am finally starting to feel good/normal after about 15 years of health misery.
Read at least Haiduts posts if you can't slog through the whole 9 pages.
I re-read this periodically to remind myself.
My 2cents.
The past few years I had read a lot about nutrition. But just until this last month I'm coming around to the ideas of Raymound Peat.
I have read (obsessively) all I can, including this forum, and sometimes it's overwhelming, there are just too many variables to track.
I don't care much about gaining weight, if it improves my health, still, I do care some about gaining abdominal fat.
I started to follow a lot of Peat guidelines this last month, I'm 44yo, 5'11''. Last month I was 220 lbs and 40in, now I'm 230 and 42in.
I knew weight gain was coming, and I told myself I was going to reevaluate at 42in and here I am.
Gaining abdominal fat do concern me, and I started to read about what could I do about it, while being Peat.
I found this (below, please do read it) amazing, spectacular post by Haidut, which help me to understand and probably solve some of my issues?
Right now, I cut the aspirin and Niacinamide, and started taking around 10g of LE Super K (4 softgels daily), and drinking more caffeine (~300 mg), hoping to improve my liver function.
What do you think of the strategy? Any other advice?