Tarmander
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I want to narrow the gap between results and theory from Peat.
Back when I joined this discussion, I was coming off a semi paleo meat+veggie diet, and embracing Matt Stone, and looking at how to prevent further weight gain.
What became very apparent was how prevalent liver dysfunction was, and the remedies that people were using to fix it. The end goal was a liver that could convert thyroid hormones effectively, generate needed hormones, and handle sugar in large amounts. People were detoxifying Pufa, using Caffeine in large amounts, B vitamins, hormones, aminos...or trying to address endotoxin and digestion to take away the burden on the liver.
People still come to the forum and ask for help...and when is it NOT liver problems?? Go back to help threads that get good response and Liver is ALWAYS mentioned.
I want to hear from people who this just did not work on, and what kind of lifestyle you lead. I want to hear from people who have downed large amounts of Caffeine and still do not have a functioning metabolism. I want to hear from liver health seekers that are failures.
I am working on the theory that to have a clean effective liver, the basis for health, you need good kidneys and adrenals. To have good kidneys and adrenals, you need a non-exciting life. Very low amounts of stimulation. I believe that the people who liver cleansing is not working for have some type of stimulation that needs to be addressed before they can make progress.
The big ones I have discovered:
•EMF...had a six month battle of getting out of a hot spot, and living somewhere EMF dead.
•Growing up with a single mother for boys seems to basically turn on the adrenals from a young age and until this history is dealt with, they will remain on. I think the low testosterone and wimpy boys phenomenon is basically too much stimulation compromising liver function from bad kidneys. Stefan Molyneux has helped me a lot with this but I still struggle.
•Free glutamate in food seems to go along with the autistic spectrum stimulation thing. Some people seem fine with it, others it makes into ADD zombies.
•Not enough calcium and too much phos. This is tough because calcium seems to be stimulating on its own without enough vitamin A.
•Not having a purpose in Life, not believing in something meaningful...nihilism, hopelessness. This turns people towards hedonism which is basically the art of stimulating yourself.
Back when I joined this discussion, I was coming off a semi paleo meat+veggie diet, and embracing Matt Stone, and looking at how to prevent further weight gain.
What became very apparent was how prevalent liver dysfunction was, and the remedies that people were using to fix it. The end goal was a liver that could convert thyroid hormones effectively, generate needed hormones, and handle sugar in large amounts. People were detoxifying Pufa, using Caffeine in large amounts, B vitamins, hormones, aminos...or trying to address endotoxin and digestion to take away the burden on the liver.
People still come to the forum and ask for help...and when is it NOT liver problems?? Go back to help threads that get good response and Liver is ALWAYS mentioned.
I want to hear from people who this just did not work on, and what kind of lifestyle you lead. I want to hear from people who have downed large amounts of Caffeine and still do not have a functioning metabolism. I want to hear from liver health seekers that are failures.
I am working on the theory that to have a clean effective liver, the basis for health, you need good kidneys and adrenals. To have good kidneys and adrenals, you need a non-exciting life. Very low amounts of stimulation. I believe that the people who liver cleansing is not working for have some type of stimulation that needs to be addressed before they can make progress.
The big ones I have discovered:
•EMF...had a six month battle of getting out of a hot spot, and living somewhere EMF dead.
•Growing up with a single mother for boys seems to basically turn on the adrenals from a young age and until this history is dealt with, they will remain on. I think the low testosterone and wimpy boys phenomenon is basically too much stimulation compromising liver function from bad kidneys. Stefan Molyneux has helped me a lot with this but I still struggle.
•Free glutamate in food seems to go along with the autistic spectrum stimulation thing. Some people seem fine with it, others it makes into ADD zombies.
•Not enough calcium and too much phos. This is tough because calcium seems to be stimulating on its own without enough vitamin A.
•Not having a purpose in Life, not believing in something meaningful...nihilism, hopelessness. This turns people towards hedonism which is basically the art of stimulating yourself.