EquilibriumSW
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Here is a video where he talks in detail. What do you guys think?
He seems on point.
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Seriously? I randomly listened at 17:20 onwards. I honestly cannot remember hearing something so ridiculous in my entire life reading through health forums and blogs.
@Jennifer has posted some things about him and seems to have benefited from the what she learned. Hopefully she will see this thread and reply.
So you went about finding the things that he seems to disagree with Raymond Peat and conclude he as nothing to give us in terms of knowledge. The video is 41.03. As the titles says he seems to agree with Raymond almost about everything.
I listened to a maybe 2 minutes and drew a conclusion. Whether he agrees with RP or not, his argumentation style makes Mercola and Asprey look like Nobel prizes in medicine.
basically everything ray peat does excluding muscle meats and dairy.Could you summarize what diet he recommends Equili? Can't make heads or tales what his approach is.
basically everything ray peat does excluding muscle meats and dairy.
Fruit based diet, tropical, berries and sweet.
basically the thing he doesn't agree is dairy products.
Similar: no Pufas, no soy, - estrogen, no tryptophan, + progesterone (females), + testosterone (males), + magnesium, - phosphorus, + calcium
I'm asking for advice because I also don't quite understand his position.
All-fruit-diets are good short term you will notice if your limit yourself to fruit you won't really eat that much unless you force feed which just leads to problems. So it's like a form of fasting... And the fruitarian people you find that look good have basically been fasting for an incredibly long time and are rid of most of the "junk" in their body. Not to mention they tend to have much healthier lifestyles in general. This allows them to run very efficiently on the limited calories they do get despite the fact that your body likes to run on lots of SFA/MUFAs with some fruit regularly but smaller portion of calories. So yes most people would benefit from a raw fruitarian approach but it's certainly not ideal long term. Really depends on the person and what issues they are dealing with to decide how short "short-term" means.
He is right about most dairy being incompatible with optimal health, but that has more to do with pasteurization/homogenization/a1 casein.
It really does sound like he is advocating a basic fruitarian diet similar to "80/10/10"
Pretty much all people who have been eating fruitarian diets long term and are still healthy eat very high calories to allow their bodies to synthesize saturated fatty acids from carbohydrates (3500kcal+, even for women) They also pretty much all live in hot/tropical climates because it's simply way too much liquid for someone living in north america or europe.
You're also going to start hating bananas and dates really quick because that'S pretty much the only thing a normal person can afford in those huge amounts
I reacted a bit like that too. He has more of a stream-of-consciousness, rambling and bombastic style, not always strong on logic (not to mention politics I wouldn't vote for, though I'm don't think this is the place to go into details on this). But after a while I started figuring that doesn't necessarily prevent him from having some useful areas of expertise. He's made lots of long videos - I stopped comparing him with people making polished performances, started thinking of his videos as just being very open about everything going through his head while he's addressing particular cases, and started sifting for the actual content. But that's 'cause I was already curious - otherwise I'd have rejected it pretty quickly.Whether he agrees with RP or not, his argumentation style makes Mercola and Asprey look like Nobel prizes in medicine.
I don't think he's big on eggs, shellfish, liver and collagen, either. He made the point (in other videos) that pasteurising milk destroys some of the digestive enzymes, and that makes them even harder to use.basically everything ray peat does excluding muscle meats and dairy.
I did hear him recommending a bit of hemp oil or other oil in a particular case, but I don't think he's suggesting lots of PUFA in general.Similar: no Pufas, no soy, - estrogen, no tryptophan, + progesterone (females), + testosterone (males), + magnesium, - phosphorus, + calcium
drool ...And I was about to forget about the great papayas.
I suspect you are right, when applied applied blindly, especially in circumstances of serious depletion. And the people most drawn to follow such practices might be the ones who find restriction easy or attractive - ie the ones who are most likely to already be suffering from depletion.These basic ideologies are dangerous.
It's not obvious to me from the videos that his views are more holistic than Peat's, but he does have a system-wide view including cell environment.I think Robert Morse is honest, but sees things more holistically than Ray Peat.
Yes. Not all sick people need the same thing to recover though, and that's where I think Morse's programme might be a bit simplistic - may be really useful (at least for a while) for some people, but not everyone.Robert Morse seems like he gives most of his advice to sick people. Sick people need a different type of guidance and diet than healthy people.