Kingpinguin
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Nothing is- all is like that-
I just want to pinpoint a general tendency/direction
I still think, mostly 50-90% will lose on keto/carnivore
70-90% will gain if they follow peat or ,,peat groups"
I think keto does not work if youre undereating nutrients and/or calories for long time, or while being to stressed
Thats why a classical bodybuiling aproach works, and it works 4 a long time...
Proteins (100-200g)and fat(40-100gram), carb cycling (100-500) to activity
Bulking and cuting once a year for 2-3months... eating maintance the rest, having cheat days, having days of extreme activity... training most of the year but making longer or shorter ,,holydays"
Then you can go keto or low carb for a month or two and get ripped...
Discipline and hard work is what everyone lacks, me being the first
Searching for a magic pill that allows us to eat as much as we can, stuffing the belly while sitting will never work... if it does i will be the first one to ,,buy it"
I doubt 70-90% will gain on a ”peat diet” or like you also put it ”peat group” diet. Ray first off never really gives any dietary guidelines. So we cant even speculate what a peat diet would be. The most accurate would be eating what peat eats in the same amounts he does. Sure some peaters of the ”peat group” advice to eat hypercaloric or 3000-4000+ calories mainly from simple sugars. But many other peaters around these forums does not support that. Infact this forum is filled with different random people calling themselves peaters or liking to think that they are some representative of peats work or this forum. Which is just straight up falls. Just as there so much awesome information and good advice in this forum theres an equall amount to bad information and bad advice on this forum. And there certainly is a lot of experimentation. One person write about their experiement eating 4000 calories of simple sugars per day. And other people then suddenly start posting with topics like ”Weight gain on peat diet”
Well we already taken part that there is no such thing as the peat diet. There’s just recommendations of foods you should eat and you should avoid. You should try to eat a nutrient dense diet, avoiding pufa. The simple sugar recomendation is great. Eat fruits. Get some sugar to support thyroid and metabolism. People just interpret everything their own way. Specially when it comes to peats work. Why you may wonder? Well because peat left it open for interpretation. He does not give any guideliness. People dont like that. People want rules to follow. They want a map they can read in detail. Peat doesnt want to give anyone that because he know the outcome will be disaster. Thats why he doesnt read this forum.
If people just started using common sense instead they might be succesfull at losing weight.