Cardamom Could Be Great For The Gut

[Mauritio]

Yeah the drop in T3 in that study is likely a compensation mechanism due to a faster metabolism and so as much T3 wasn't needed. TSH didn't go up as there was no need to signal more production. Also the animals had more muscle and less fat due to the cardamom.

yes and in the other study I posted it actually seems really pro-thyroid.

When eating cardamom, should you only eat the seeds inside? Can it be eaten whole?

No idea tbh I just bought ground cardamom

 

[Andro Chad]

I‘ve been taken 7days straight 1 big heavy tsp cardamom per day. Its definitly raising serotonin! I saw @Mauritio mentioned it is MAO inhibitor. But dont know which. Ive been irritatible, very light sleep, heavy dreams, the fronthead is getting really heavy, very very light depression and anxiety and pressure on the temple (hope is the right translation) on the side of the head. I know this feeling from 10 years ago when I had really high serotonin.
The benefit was ghost whipes nearly yellow bowel movements. This was positive, but where did this come from? From the high serotonin?

 

[Hans]

I‘ve been taken 7days straight 1 big heavy tsp cardamom per day. Its definitly raising serotonin! I saw @Mauritio mentioned it is MAO inhibitor. But dont know which. Ive been irritatible, very light sleep, heavy dreams, the fronthead is getting really heavy, very very light depression and anxiety and pressure on the temple (hope is the right translation) on the side of the head. I know this feeling from 10 years ago when I had really high serotonin.
The benefit was ghost whipes nearly yellow bowel movements. This was positive, but where did this come from? From the high serotonin?

Did you perhaps experience some bloating and more gas than previously?
I'm sceptical that it's serotonin, rather perhaps a negative reaction to the fiber in cardamom.

 

[Andro Chad]

Did you perhaps experience some bloating and more gas than previously?
I'm sceptical that it's serotonin, rather perhaps a negative reaction to the fiber in cardamom.

More gas yes, bloating no. Maybe the fiber IDK, but it definitely raised serotonin. I know this feeling for sure. I thought I‘ve passed that since years, but all these symptons came back until I realized what happened. Everybody is talking about perfect bowel movements, ghost whipes etc. But what is responsible for this? More serotonin in the gut? @Hans

 

[Hans]

More gas yes, bloating no. Maybe the fiber IDK, but it definitely raised serotonin. I know this feeling for sure. I thought I‘ve passed that since years, but all these symptons came back until I realized what happened. Everybody is talking about perfect bowel movements, ghost whipes etc. But what is responsible for this? More serotonin in the gut? @Hans

Low gut inflammation is one of the key factors in ghost wipes.
How did you get high serotonin in the past? Were on your SSRIs?

 

[Andro Chad]

Low gut inflammation is one of the key factors in ghost wipes.
How did you get high serotonin in the past? Were on your SSRIs?

Yes I get high serotonin in the past without SSRIs 10 years ago and then I get prescribed for nearly 10 years to come off of this ***t. Now I feel exacctly like before I started back then i didnt sleep for 5 days after coming off cardamom. What would you suggest I topk epspm salt bath, baking soda much sugar. Yesterday I started with Activated charcoalbut didnt nothing helped me yet. I lay whole night in bed with literally Eyes open spinning from left to right. This morning I also got blood in my bowel movement

 

[Hans]

Yes I get high serotonin in the past without SSRIs 10 years ago and then I get prescribed for nearly 10 years to come off of this ***t. Now I feel exacctly like before I started back then i didnt sleep for 5 days after coming off cardamom. What would you suggest I topk epspm salt bath, baking soda much sugar. Yesterday I started with Activated charcoalbut didnt nothing helped me yet. I lay whole night in bed with literally Eyes open spinning from left to right. This morning I also got blood in my bowel movement

That doesn't sound good at all and I think it's highly unlikely the cardamom caused that. Perhaps it was a contaminant.

 

[charlie]

That doesn't sound good at all and I think it's highly unlikely the cardamom caused that. Perhaps it was a contaminant.

Are maybe cardamom is toxic.

 

[Hans]

Are maybe cardamom is toxic.

I'd say it's like most things. Oregano oil can help most people with SIBO and for someone else it can cause gut inflammation. Bulbine can help most people with premature ejaculation and might worsen delayed ejaculation for a small percentage of people.
It's too black and white to say that something is or isn't toxic.
Cardamom itself has been used for 1000s of years as medicine, and extreme side effects (as above) are extremely rare. But it's only medicine in the right context of someone who needs it.
A lot of people, who started using it after I talked about it, have told me that they notice benefits.

 

[Andro Chad]

I'd say it's like most things. Oregano oil can help most people with SIBO and for someone else it can cause gut inflammation. Bulbine can help most people with premature ejaculation and might worsen delayed ejaculation for a small percentage of people.
It's too black and white to say that something is or isn't toxic.
Cardamom itself has been used for 1000s of years as medicine, and extreme side effects (as above) are extremely rare. But it's only medicine in the right context of someone who needs it.
A lot of people, who started using it after I talked about it, have told me that they notice benefits.

This night I could finally sleep again. Also my libido was zero when I was on cardamom, finally is coming back a little bit. I think the quality of the product has nothing to do with it. it is a well known wholesale for organic teas and spices etc. I never had problems with their products, I also buy there raw chamomile to make tea. Its hard to know what caused all of this, but serotonin skyrocketed definetely. I took AC, Epsom Salt Bath, Carrot salad, sodium bicsrbonate much calcium from milk and cheese but the gamechanger was 800mg potassium citrate yesterday my brain fog lifted immediately.

 

[charlie]

I'd say it's like most things. Oregano oil can help most people with SIBO and for someone else it can cause gut inflammation. Bulbine can help most people with premature ejaculation and might worsen delayed ejaculation for a small percentage of people.
It's too black and white to say that something is or isn't toxic.
Cardamom itself has been used for 1000s of years as medicine, and extreme side effects (as above) are extremely rare. But it's only medicine in the right context of someone who needs it.
A lot of people, who started using it after I talked about it, have told me that they notice benefits.

Benefits from suppressing symptoms is not a benefit. It is kicking the can down the road. And you sound a lot like Ray Peat when something went wrong with a substance he was taking in. Example, when he would take "vitamin A" supplements he would say "oh its the excipients or the manufacturing" that was causing the reaction. When in reality "vitamin A" is a toxin and it was the toxin most likely causing him issues. Notice it was as he was getting older, which would make perfect sense as his poison "vitamin A" stores were filling up and he was able to handle less and less of it.

 

[Andro Chad]

Benefits from suppressing symptoms is not a benefit. It is kicking the can down the road. And you sound a lot like Ray Peat when something went wrong with a substance he was taking in. Example, when he would take "vitamin A" supplements he would say "oh its the excipients or the manufacturing" that was causing the reaction. When in reality "vitamin A" is a toxin and it was the toxin most likely causing him issues. Notice it was as he was getting older, which would make perfect sense as his poison "vitamin A" stores were filling up and he was able to handle less and less of

maybe the cardamom aggrevated some underlying issues with fungal? @Mauritio @Hans

 

[Rish]

I should go back to making Chai. Uses a lot of spices. Cardamom, cinnamon bark (not the Ceylon type, though I should look for one) clove bud, ginger, allspice, and one more spice I can't remember the name of. I use orange pekoe tea for best Chai. Then lotsa milk. And peaty too.

Come to think of it, it's very antibacterial. The tea is a biofilm buster.

Would love if you could share a recipe!

 

[InChristAlone]

Has anyone gotten healthier by taking more spice? I've never heard of it. Cinnamon is known to be toxic to the liver.

 

[Hans]

Benefits from suppressing symptoms is not a benefit. It is kicking the can down the road. And you sound a lot like Ray Peat when something went wrong with a substance he was taking in. Example, when he would take "vitamin A" supplements he would say "oh its the excipients or the manufacturing" that was causing the reaction. When in reality "vitamin A" is a toxin and it was the toxin most likely causing him issues. Notice it was as he was getting older, which would make perfect sense as his poison "vitamin A" stores were filling up and he was able to handle less and less of it.

We have a different perspective on things and it would take forever for me to write it down. Let's say someone has a fungal issue and cardamom fixes that, was that only suppressing symptoms? No ofc not. If I understand it correctly, you feel that all herbs are toxic? I disagree with that. Ofc I don't base my whole approach off that, but rather focus on calming the immune system, getting rid of oxidative stress and fixing nutritional deficiencies. That fixes the root cause. Herbs can help speed that up.

 

[Dave Clark]

Ceylon cinnamon is less of a problem, and has been used for many years in moderation without liver issues:

https://nourished.com/cassia-vs-ceylon-cinnamon-are-you-using-the-right-kind/#:~:text=Ceylon%2C%20on%20the%20other%20hand,use%2C%20especially%20in%20large%20quantities.

 

[Andro Chad]

Today i Have again blood in my stool. And since I took cardamom my tinnitus is worse. Then I found @haidut post today.

Serotonin May Be A Cause Of Hemorrhoids And Tinnitus

The two conditions mentioned in the title of the post are quite pervasive among Western societies and their cause is, of course, officially labelled as unknown. While medicine claims that no treatment exists for tinnitus the only approved curative treatment for hemorrhoids is surgery and like...

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I have some famotidine laying around here, should I take it?

 

[Hans]

Today i Have again blood in my stool. And since I took cardamom my tinnitus is worse. Then I found @haidut post today.

Serotonin May Be A Cause Of Hemorrhoids And Tinnitus

The two conditions mentioned in the title of the post are quite pervasive among Western societies and their cause is, of course, officially labelled as unknown. While medicine claims that no treatment exists for tinnitus the only approved curative treatment for hemorrhoids is surgery and like...

raypeatforum.com

I have some famotidine laying around here, should I take it?

Anything in your diet that could cause it? Do you also have diarrhea/loose stool?

 

[Ras]

Cinnamon is known to be toxic to the liver.

That's only Chinese cinnamon.