A family member has Colon cancer with large liver metastases, any advice would be appreciated.

[FitnessMike]

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[DGSTLX]

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Cutting sugar and most carbs would help, as cancer cells use fermentation of sugars for energy, so using ketones as energy will help (fat).
Also cold exposure I read can really help.

 

[Peatress]

Cyproheptadine, cascara, and aspirin are all anti-cancer substances. So is progesterone.

"Milk and fiber are very protective for the colon." Ray Peat

"As soon as you turn off the glucose supply, then the damage really starts because you start destroying your own tissues, turning it into food. The waste and disease of cancer begins when you stop providing glucose to your body." Ray Peat

 

[Peatress]

Cutting sugar and most carbs would help, as cancer cells use fermentation of sugars for energy, so using ketones as energy will help (fat).
Also cold exposure I read can really help.

This would be called suicide.

 

[Morten]

This would be called suicide.

Yes, confusing, Since advice is 180 degress different...

 

[shanny]

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Is this person jabbed? I just went through the same thing with a quadruple boosted family member and it wasn't pretty.

 

[DGSTLX]

This would be called suicide.

Please inform yourself on topics like the carnivore diet.
I've been on this diet for the past year and have cured two of my chronic diseases.

And no, if you turn off the glucose supply nothing will happen becouse the body produces it's own glucose.
I've done a few tests and my glucose levels have been around 80md/dl during all this time.

You do not destroy your own tissue, that's why you accumulate fat, and most of the carbs you eat end up stored as fat.
It's the primary energy system of the body and we never use it.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Please inform yourself on topics like the carnivore diet.
I've been on this diet for the past year and have cured two of my chronic diseases.

And no, if you turn off the glucose supply nothing will happen becouse the body produces it's own glucose.
I've done a few tests and my glucose levels have been around 80md/dl during all this time.

You do not destroy your own tissue, that's why you accumulate fat, and most of the carbs you eat end up stored as fat.
It's the primary energy system of the body and we never use it.

Ray wrote a lot about cancer. And there has been a lot of research on cancer here, what you and the keto/carnivore people say is completely wrong. Please study what Peat, haidut etc have argued before giving such dangerous advice.

@FitnessMike I would advise doing a forum search. I suggest you order niacinamide, vitamin A D and K2, in large dosages. Think 25k iu, 5k iu and 15mg, respectively.

 

[FitnessMike]

Is this person jabbed? I just went through the same thing with a quadruple boosted family member and it wasn't pretty.

Yes he is vaccinated, he also is 70 years old, and metabolism seems to be ok on the surface… lack of apparent symptoms of low metabolism but that would have to be checked thoroughly

 

[FitnessMike]

Thanks guys for imput

 

[Apple]

Please inform yourself on topics like the carnivore diet.
I've been on this diet for the past year and have cured two of my chronic diseases.

And no, if you turn off the glucose supply nothing will happen becouse the body produces it's own glucose.
I've done a few tests and my glucose levels have been around 80md/dl during all this time.

You do not destroy your own tissue, that's why you accumulate fat, and most of the carbs you eat end up stored as fat.
It's the primary energy system of the body and we never use it.

what is your diet like ?
I think it is good to rotate keto (for couple weeks) and just normal diet.
For me it is a matter of three days that keto diet starts working with a strong anti inflammatory effect + warm hands

 

[DGSTLX]

what is your diet like ?
I think it is good to rotate keto (for couple weeks) and just normal diet.
For me it is a matter of three days that keto diet starts working with a strong anti inflammatory effect + warm hands

Any animal product actully. At least 50% of calories from fats, the rest from protein and at most 10% of carbs some days.
Mostly beef, liver, eggs.

Rotating keto is for sure better than just standart diet. For me the same, after three days or so my arthritis disappears.

If doing such "extreme" diets for some people seem too much, at least try prolonged fasting, not as potent but similar effect.

 

[Apple]

after three days or so my arthritis disappears.

exactly !
In the beginning Keto diet expels lots water out of system. In theory cancer cells are just swallen (with water) normal cells. (read on RP forum). Hence Keto might quickly help to reduce cancerous swelling.
Ray Peat recommended Acetazolamide ... diuretic medication that treats swelling caused by heart disease. It works by helping your body make more pee so you can lose salt and excess water from your body.
Drugs similar to acetazolamide, sulfonamides that inhibit carbonic anhydrase, have recently been discovered to stop the growth of a wide variety of tumors. -Ray Peat, PhD

 

[ecstatichamster]

I'm dealing with a family member who has cancer.

Here is what we are working on:

Inhibit excessive lipolysis.

Promote NAD.

Increase internal CO2.

Lower estrogen.

Lower cortisol.

That means, aspirin, lidocaine, niacinamide, thiamine (at least 2500mg per day), pyrocet, fendbendazole, naringinen, apigenin, trying magnolia extract...

A diet high in starch and low in fat.

Heat, heat, heat. Make sure to get body temperature to 98.6 or 99F during the day. Sauna, hot tub, heating pads.

 

[Logan-]

I'm dealing with a family member who has cancer.

Here is what we are working on:

Inhibit excessive lipolysis.

Promote NAD.

Increase internal CO2.

Lower estrogen.

Lower cortisol.

That means, aspirin, lidocaine, niacinamide, thiamine (at least 2500mg per day), pyrocet, fendbendazole, naringinen, apigenin, trying magnolia extract...

A diet high in starch and low in fat.

Heat, heat, heat. Make sure to get body temperature to 98.6 or 99F during the day. Sauna, hot tub, heating pads.

Basically, how you would treat diabetes; except the starch.

 

[CSH]

Amazon product ASIN 0951951734View: https://www.amazon.com/How-Starve-Cancer-Jane-McLelland/dp/0951951734/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1700923613&sr=8-1

Excellent book.

 

[ecstatichamster]

Basically, how you would treat diabetes; except the starch.

I would do the same diet for diabetes.

 

[Jackson Chung]

I would do the same diet for diabetes.

How is your family member doing?

 

[DGSTLX]

I would do the same diet for diabetes.

They are similar.

Some new drugs for diabetes have shown to improve cancer and cardiovascular diseases.
The mechanism is the same, getting the body to process better the sugar.

 

[Apple]

Amazon product ASIN 0951951734View: https://www.amazon.com/How-Starve-Cancer-Jane-McLelland/dp/0951951734/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1700923613&sr=8-1

Excellent book.

never heard of it .... ferroptosis.
Interesting...
Jane McLelland :
Polyunsaturated fats (PUFAs) like walnut oil, flaxseed DHA, EPA and GLA are good for activating ferroptosis as they are sensitive to oxidation, whereas saturated fat and monounsaturated fat can stimulate progression. Saturated fats are less sensitive to the effects of ROS, making the cell membranes resistant to treatment.
+ taking danshen .

Can this be integrated into RP paradigm?