Runenight201
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It's hard to deny the impact our gut has on our health, and the importance of eating food that produces a happy, healthy gut, with beneficial bacteria, vs eating food that produces a negative effect.
Healthy Western individuals have been reported to obtain 2.8 kcal/g of fiber via microbial fermentation (Behall & Howe 1996), yielding up to 10% of a person’s daily calories (McNeil 1984).
So it seems like fiber isn't just mass for our bowel movements, but that we can actually obtain energy for it through our bacteria fermenting it. Most primates obtain a substantial amount of their energy this way I believe.
"However, it should be noted that the gut microbiota regulate food intake to meet their carbohydrate requirement, and a diet deficient in fiber leads to overeating as well".
I've noticed that while consuming very low fiberous foods, it's very hard to meet satiety, even though my stomach was physically full. I can rationally explain this with two mechanisms either:
1)the food I consumed wasn't nutritionally complete enough (which occurs if I were to just eat white rice for instance)
2)my gut bacteria were still hungry for their fermentable carbohydrates, triggering hunger signals and leading me to overeat. I think this could be useful for people who struggle with weight while Peating, as I certainly have.
The PUFA discussing is interesting, especially the antimicrobial effects. PUFA's are impossible to avoid unless one eats a diet of simple sugars, so it may be best to eat a diet that tends towards a better ratio of omega 3 to omega 6. While supplementing probably doesn't make sense, avoiding foods with gross ratios and the inclusion of seafood which tends to have more omega 3's could be a rational conclusion. Heme iron can certainly be avoided eating this way, and oysters provide plenty of zinc.
They certainly seem to have a heavy plant based bias, but I have noticed personally that ruminant and avian meat causes bloat, inflammation, and weight gain. Perhaps my body struggles to deal with the ammonia produced, and supporting mechanisms (would fiber help with this? Are fiber and fermentable carbohydrates synonymous?) that clear ammonia allow for tolerable digestion of animal flesh.
I agree with the simple sugars and small intestinal overgrowth, as I just made the connection for my body yesterday. Consuming orange juice on its own led to an inflammatory reaction. The bacteria were probably multiplying like crazy in my small intestine, creating endotoxemia and systemic inflammation. I don't get quite the same reaction when consuming fruit juice with starches (at least I think...but maybe its present and just attenuated).
I think I may try upping my fiber intake and drastically reduce fruit juice consumption. Perhaps some experimentation with whole grains are in order??? Legumes positively impact my stools, but I'm not sure if I'm quite ready for whole grain wheat and rice
Healthy Western individuals have been reported to obtain 2.8 kcal/g of fiber via microbial fermentation (Behall & Howe 1996), yielding up to 10% of a person’s daily calories (McNeil 1984).
So it seems like fiber isn't just mass for our bowel movements, but that we can actually obtain energy for it through our bacteria fermenting it. Most primates obtain a substantial amount of their energy this way I believe.
"However, it should be noted that the gut microbiota regulate food intake to meet their carbohydrate requirement, and a diet deficient in fiber leads to overeating as well".
I've noticed that while consuming very low fiberous foods, it's very hard to meet satiety, even though my stomach was physically full. I can rationally explain this with two mechanisms either:
1)the food I consumed wasn't nutritionally complete enough (which occurs if I were to just eat white rice for instance)
2)my gut bacteria were still hungry for their fermentable carbohydrates, triggering hunger signals and leading me to overeat. I think this could be useful for people who struggle with weight while Peating, as I certainly have.
The PUFA discussing is interesting, especially the antimicrobial effects. PUFA's are impossible to avoid unless one eats a diet of simple sugars, so it may be best to eat a diet that tends towards a better ratio of omega 3 to omega 6. While supplementing probably doesn't make sense, avoiding foods with gross ratios and the inclusion of seafood which tends to have more omega 3's could be a rational conclusion. Heme iron can certainly be avoided eating this way, and oysters provide plenty of zinc.
They certainly seem to have a heavy plant based bias, but I have noticed personally that ruminant and avian meat causes bloat, inflammation, and weight gain. Perhaps my body struggles to deal with the ammonia produced, and supporting mechanisms (would fiber help with this? Are fiber and fermentable carbohydrates synonymous?) that clear ammonia allow for tolerable digestion of animal flesh.
I agree with the simple sugars and small intestinal overgrowth, as I just made the connection for my body yesterday. Consuming orange juice on its own led to an inflammatory reaction. The bacteria were probably multiplying like crazy in my small intestine, creating endotoxemia and systemic inflammation. I don't get quite the same reaction when consuming fruit juice with starches (at least I think...but maybe its present and just attenuated).
I think I may try upping my fiber intake and drastically reduce fruit juice consumption. Perhaps some experimentation with whole grains are in order??? Legumes positively impact my stools, but I'm not sure if I'm quite ready for whole grain wheat and rice