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Thanks buddy (now I feel stupid lol!)Per day
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Thanks buddy (now I feel stupid lol!)Per day
its per day.Wow amazing find!
Excuse my ignorance, what’s the “d” in 45mg/d stand for? Decilitre?! Idk
How did you make that correlation? ie due to high brain inflammation? (Genuinely asking)
Thanks bro, how much mk4 do you take a day?its per day.
I also didnt really like mk7 ultimately. It felt strong at the beginning but it never really improved anything noticeably.
Normally just 4mg/week. Atm Im taking 6mg/day to help liver function and as an anti-viral.Thanks bro, how much mk4 do you take a day?
"The cumulative recurrence rates in the menatetrenone group were 12.5% at 12 months, 39.0% at 24 months, and 64.3% at 36 months; and the corresponding recurrence rates in the control group were 55.2%, 83.2%, and 91.6%, respectively (P = 0.0002)."
"The cumulative survival rates for the patients who received menatetrenone were 100% at 12 months, 96.6% at 24 months, and 87.0% at 36 months; and the corresponding survival rates for patients in the control group were 96.4%, 80.9%, and 64.0%, respectively (P = 0.051)."
Now I read here that fructose can be VERY toxic to the liver... sort of anti-Peat, no?K2 MK4 and coffee are extremely helpful for the liver. The liver is well known to be an organ that is particularly prone to regenerate and regrow and recover from even serious liver disease. I think fatty liver is caused by PUFAs, although there are a lot of dubious studies that say otherwise.
I eat fruit, but not too much, and I do adhere to Ray Peat’s suggestion on it, to eat juicy fruits raw and starchy fruits like apples and pears cooked. Avoid the peels and seed, and avoid their starches even better. Fruit can put on weight, but balancing it with sucrose helps that. I thin my fruit juices with water to keep the fructose calories down…Now I read here that fructose can be VERY toxic to the liver... sort of anti-Peat, no?
I wish I could drink coffee often, I love it... but I get palps from it... allergic? Caffeine? Not sure.
Seems strange that fructose is now controversial... so many people eating fruit over the decades... had to imagine that is is really bad... Peat loved it, Dinkov loves it...I eat fruit, but not too much, and I do adhere to Ray Peat’s suggestion on it, to eat juicy fruits raw and starchy fruits like apples and pears cooked. Avoid the peels and seed, and avoid their starches even better. Fruit can put on weight, but balancing it with sucrose helps that. I thin my fruit juices with water to keep the fructose calories down…
@tanksniwagod posted…
“Those studies were terribly designed. Peat recommends eating sucrose, honey, fruit, and juice, not 100% isolated fructose. So, their results really don't apply.”
Is Peat wrong on fructose?
Fructose consumed with glucose in small amounts from raw honey seem to be fine. However, excessive fructose consumption appears to be extremely negative. A very recent study "Fructose stimulated de novo lipogenesis is promoted by inflammation" shows that fructose causes inflammation and liver...www.raypeatforum.com
Seems strange that fructose is now controversial... so many people eating fruit over the decades... had to imagine that is is really bad... Peat loved it, Dinkov loves it...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXuuPqPXrOw
I agree, but we are not in the Garden anymore, unfortunately. And fruits have been bred and modified to be sweeter and sweeter. We are not getting the same fruit now as they were in the Garden. Plus so many people are dealing with compromised livers they can handle less and less fructose.What is the purpose of fruit in nature if it is not to eat it? What about the Garden Of Eden?
I agree with you that fruits are not what they were intended to be anymore, but neither are vegetables, grains, meat or dairy. I suspect most people who have not addressed the toxins in their environment, take medications and such have those toxic livers, and need to do something to not add more burden to their decline. If the burden isn’t going to be lightened from fixing their environment, or giving up medications, or from plastics fluoride laden water, then they probably need to give up the fruit. I am just as concerned with the quality of our food chain, and that is why I am trying to grow my own fruit, and what a difference in taste there is from the grocery store.I agree, but we are not in the Garden anymore, unfortunately. And fruits have been bred and modified to be sweeter and sweeter. We are not getting the same fruit now as they were in the Garden. Plus so many people are dealing with compromised livers they can handle less and less fructose.