Terma
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This might be subjective: has anyone who has used tia ever found a non-opioid substance that comes close?
I had to stop tianeptine completely. It's relatively fantastic but with my personal physiology it wasn't sustainable. I can only use it twice a week and it's not enough for a crutch and it sits there on the shelf and laughs at me.
At present the best and most potent things I use are 5a-DHP and PRL-8-53. I can reach maybe 70% of tianeptine benefits with them, but have to use them alternate days or every 3 days. I use moderate caffeine, but I get side effects from prolonged caffeine use, which I'm reeling from this week. Amino acids sometimes help quite a bit but inconsistently. Daily I take tyrosine (sometimes with BCAA), lysine, transdermal magnesium, riboflavin, RDA iodine, some taurine with every meal, A/D/K/E, some others.
Things I have already tried (some help but not enough):
* Adamantane (not bad at all, but not sustainable enough either)
* Pregnenolone/progesterone/dhea/androsterone
* Piracetam/aniracetam/oxaloridiculoracetam
* metergoline/ritanserin/lisuride
* cyproheptadine/benadryl (ugh)
* phenibut/benzos
* aspirin
* thyroid products (very little effect)
* NAC/ALA/coq10/methylene blue
* phospholipids
* other nootropics not worth mentioning
* all vitamins and minerals
* every diet permutation in the world
* every permutation of the above substances
Things I would like to try (and know how they compare) but can't:
* NSI-189
* ketamine
I had to stop tianeptine completely. It's relatively fantastic but with my personal physiology it wasn't sustainable. I can only use it twice a week and it's not enough for a crutch and it sits there on the shelf and laughs at me.
At present the best and most potent things I use are 5a-DHP and PRL-8-53. I can reach maybe 70% of tianeptine benefits with them, but have to use them alternate days or every 3 days. I use moderate caffeine, but I get side effects from prolonged caffeine use, which I'm reeling from this week. Amino acids sometimes help quite a bit but inconsistently. Daily I take tyrosine (sometimes with BCAA), lysine, transdermal magnesium, riboflavin, RDA iodine, some taurine with every meal, A/D/K/E, some others.
Things I have already tried (some help but not enough):
* Adamantane (not bad at all, but not sustainable enough either)
* Pregnenolone/progesterone/dhea/androsterone
* Piracetam/aniracetam/oxaloridiculoracetam
* metergoline/ritanserin/lisuride
* cyproheptadine/benadryl (ugh)
* phenibut/benzos
* aspirin
* thyroid products (very little effect)
* NAC/ALA/coq10/methylene blue
* phospholipids
* other nootropics not worth mentioning
* all vitamins and minerals
* every diet permutation in the world
* every permutation of the above substances
Things I would like to try (and know how they compare) but can't:
* NSI-189
* ketamine