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Yeah, the only fat soluble vitamin I've read that needs to be balanced is vitamin d with vitamin k, K2 by itself is fineWould it be a problem to use K2 mk-4 without taking vitamin D supplements? Or if I take calcium instead of vitamin D?
Would it be a problem to use K2 mk-4 without taking vitamin D supplements? Or if I take calcium instead of vitamin D?
Yeah, the only fat soluble vitamin I've read that needs to be balanced is vitamin d with vitamin k, K2 by itself is fine
I have read this before but am skeptical. There are thousands of studies showing benefits of vitamin D, one of the most studied substances, but how many balance with K? I believe vitamin D is the most taken supplement in the western world, how many people do you know that are taking K? Of course dosages are important.
People don't even know what K is. Mainstream always markets Vitamin D.
I don't think oral Vitamin D is safe.
How come there are thousands upon thousands of scientific studies showing benefits using only vitamin D? (Serious question, I'm not 100% sure the answer myself)
There are bad studies about too.
Vitamin D causes calcium to rise which is an aging process. Active form of Vitamin D Calcitriol causes calcification of organs.
Also opens L-Type Calcium Channels which raises intracellular calcium and iron. Causes hypertension.
Vitamin K is antagonist of all these calcium actions.
Supplemental Vitamin D is a big no for me. Don't know about sun.
Of course there are bad studies, but you are overlooking the quantity of Vitamin D studies. There are almost 86,000 on pubmed when you search vitamin D.
A flaw in all of that happens in the first section "calcitrol." Who takes calcitrol? All the supplements that pop up when I search for vitamin D are cholecalciferol, which almost everyone I read, including Peat, recommends.
You should make very clear you are talking about calcitrol when you publish your views on vitamin D, it is not the same as cholecalciferol.
No, I don't have to do anything. There's no point of over-protecting a substance or supplement.
It's a mainstream trash for me. People can look and have their own ideas.
Is this fully reversed by vitamin K2 and magnesium (and potassium)? Would it be better to minimize A and D3, raise K2, and what else? What processes are antiaging? What vitamins/minerals?There are bad studies about too.
Vitamin D causes calcium to rise which is an aging process. Active form of Vitamin D Calcitriol causes calcification of organs.
Also opens L-Type Calcium Channels which raises intracellular calcium and iron. Causes hypertension.
Vitamin K is antagonist of all these calcium actions.
Supplemental Vitamin D is a big no for me. Don't know about sun.
Is this fully reversed by vitamin K2 and magnesium (and potassium)? Would it be better to minimize A and D3, raise K2, and what else? What processes are antiaging? What vitamins/minerals?
I assume sodium in cells also has the same aging effect? Therefore more potassium and magnesium along with less sodium and calcium (channels)?
HE IS TALKING ABOUT CALCITROL, NOT CHOLECALCIFEROL, THE MOST COMMON FORM OF VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENT.
See what I mean @Estradiol people are already being confused and misled by your inaccurate statements, literally minutes after I suggested this might happen. This is exactly why you should make it clear the forms you are talking about. Literally nobody is recommending calcitrol.
Vitamin D also can increase calcium by all means.
And drinking 30 litres of water will kill you, but a glass is a nice refreshing drink. Taking normal amounts of vitamin D (cholecalciferol) has been shown to be safe time and time again.
"Finally, even high doses vitamin D3 used in some of these studies did not cause hypercalcemia, so the most feared side effect of vitamin D is apparently not that common"
Vitamin D Is Endotoxin (LPS / TLR4) Antagonist, May Treat LPS-linked Conditions
Intracellullar and blood are completely different things. I still don't find it safe. And that's my idea so stop over-protecting it.
Why are you here? What are you doing on this forum? (Serious question.)
Adequate vitamin D is one of the absolute cornerstones of Peats beliefs and one he talks about time and time again. Look at some of his email replies to people, the vast majority of them mention vitamin D.
I am trying to explain to you your idea is not only wrong but potentially damaging to forum members health that take your advice, it is also directly contradictory to what Peat says. Peat never talks about calcitrol when he explains the benefits of vitamin D, you are only talking about calcitrol when you explain the negatives. How do you not see that as a problem?
Should I ask you to what the write or not? You don't have to accept all the ideas of Ray Peat. People can research.
Not accepting Ray's ideas doesn't mean misleading people.