cjm
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Saline + IdeaLabs + in the eye = remarkable relief from learned helplessness, severe muscle tension, rumination, etc.
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Ophthalmic solutions give the gut a rest. Lower doses are needed and effects are felt quicker than oral or topical. Your mileage may vary. This method of administration is intended for those who do not perceive they have other options.
Ophthalmic delivery drops the noise level in my head so I can hear again, perceive again. It allows life’s shapes to light up my mind instead of me imposing my contrived geometry on it.
Without the side effects from oral supplementation/gut irritation or the pitfalls of topical administration.
Now I have a better idea of where I am (and who (!) I am) and where I need to go.
Ray’s point that energy is needed to relax can be nigh impossible for a stressed body to grasp. Constantly in my head, there is an automatic marching order: “MORE, MORE, MORE.” I feel something missing so I go looking for something. I accumulate. I have accumulated supplements, toys, devices, debt, resentment, isolation. Energy is what is missing and it can’t be force-fed. But my body perceives the tension as energy so it doesn’t appear to be missing. I look for everything except what I need, almost in spite of it. I need brain energy so I can extinguish harmful and persistent thinking. So ophthalmics make sense (although I'm still not sure how much active substance is getting to the brain). It took me a long time to realize they were an option, long after Ray wrote about T3 eye-drops: "(Eye-drops containing T3 might be a way to restore metabolic activity more quickly [than oral supplementation].)"
Opthalmics should be an option for anyone who can’t get their oral or topical dose right, anyone with a fed-up gut, anyone with a stubborn irritant lodged somewhere, anyone with anything “stuck in their craw”. Craw, by the way, is another name for throat or stomach.
You need to relax, bruh. Try it in the eye.
THE GREAT EYE EXPERIMENT:
(or How I Learned To Love Sticking It In My Eye)
I am only using IdeaLabs supplements as the solute. Georgi has been responsive to my emails and we’ve carried on a little discussion about this. I am appreciative to him and Ray, whom I have also been in touch with about possible safety concerns of the solvents, for their guidance.
My dosing has been ad lib. I haven’t gone through a full (oral equivalent) dose of anything. Today I’ve been fine without anything. The momentum from a week’s worth of supplementation has brought me back to a tolerable baseline.
What have I been using? Tyronene, Progestene, at first. These are the solutes that don’t require emulsification in water (contact solution in my case; I’ve ordered pure saline for a test).
Sixteen (16) drops from any particular supplement in 18 ml of solvent (Complete Multi Solution, a contact lens solution) is about as much as I can tolerate. This can only due to the solvents used in IdeaLabs supplements. There is some irritation that happens in higher concentrations, both from MCT- and ethanol-containing versions of IdeaLabs supplements.
(What’s odd is that MCT sucks to use in the eye in my experience. It will mix with oily solutes like Gonadin and Estroban but upon application, a film of oil covers my eye and stays for 15-30 minutes. It's annoying. For the record, I think Gonadin in a saline-based solution is effective, I’m just not sure how well it is mixing. My mixture with Estroban using contact lens solution as the solvent wasn't a mixture at all.)
So I start with a bottleful (~18ml) of a contact lens solution for my solvent. Then I drop in whatever solute I’m using. The bottle I’m using is the same one IdeaLabs uses for Progestene and Tyronene and will hold 360 drops of solvent (plus the 16 drops of solute you choose).
*Sixteen drops Progestene contains about 26 mg of progesterone; each ophthalmic drop would contain .071 mg, or a concentration of about .39%. (Compare to .05% concentration for a testosterone/progesterone drop I found online [link]; that’s the equivalent of .188 mg in 18 ml, or less than a third of a drop of Progestene.)
*Sixteen drops Tyronene contains 64 mcg of T3; each ophthalmic drop would contain .17 mcg, or a concentration of about .95%.
I’m going to continue my personal experimentation with these last two specifically.
I encourage your own experimentation so you can corroborate my results or tell me to take a hike.
~Chris
~~~
Ophthalmic solutions give the gut a rest. Lower doses are needed and effects are felt quicker than oral or topical. Your mileage may vary. This method of administration is intended for those who do not perceive they have other options.
Ophthalmic delivery drops the noise level in my head so I can hear again, perceive again. It allows life’s shapes to light up my mind instead of me imposing my contrived geometry on it.
Without the side effects from oral supplementation/gut irritation or the pitfalls of topical administration.
Now I have a better idea of where I am (and who (!) I am) and where I need to go.
Ray’s point that energy is needed to relax can be nigh impossible for a stressed body to grasp. Constantly in my head, there is an automatic marching order: “MORE, MORE, MORE.” I feel something missing so I go looking for something. I accumulate. I have accumulated supplements, toys, devices, debt, resentment, isolation. Energy is what is missing and it can’t be force-fed. But my body perceives the tension as energy so it doesn’t appear to be missing. I look for everything except what I need, almost in spite of it. I need brain energy so I can extinguish harmful and persistent thinking. So ophthalmics make sense (although I'm still not sure how much active substance is getting to the brain). It took me a long time to realize they were an option, long after Ray wrote about T3 eye-drops: "(Eye-drops containing T3 might be a way to restore metabolic activity more quickly [than oral supplementation].)"
Opthalmics should be an option for anyone who can’t get their oral or topical dose right, anyone with a fed-up gut, anyone with a stubborn irritant lodged somewhere, anyone with anything “stuck in their craw”. Craw, by the way, is another name for throat or stomach.
You need to relax, bruh. Try it in the eye.
THE GREAT EYE EXPERIMENT:
(or How I Learned To Love Sticking It In My Eye)
I am only using IdeaLabs supplements as the solute. Georgi has been responsive to my emails and we’ve carried on a little discussion about this. I am appreciative to him and Ray, whom I have also been in touch with about possible safety concerns of the solvents, for their guidance.
My dosing has been ad lib. I haven’t gone through a full (oral equivalent) dose of anything. Today I’ve been fine without anything. The momentum from a week’s worth of supplementation has brought me back to a tolerable baseline.
What have I been using? Tyronene, Progestene, at first. These are the solutes that don’t require emulsification in water (contact solution in my case; I’ve ordered pure saline for a test).
Sixteen (16) drops from any particular supplement in 18 ml of solvent (Complete Multi Solution, a contact lens solution) is about as much as I can tolerate. This can only due to the solvents used in IdeaLabs supplements. There is some irritation that happens in higher concentrations, both from MCT- and ethanol-containing versions of IdeaLabs supplements.
(What’s odd is that MCT sucks to use in the eye in my experience. It will mix with oily solutes like Gonadin and Estroban but upon application, a film of oil covers my eye and stays for 15-30 minutes. It's annoying. For the record, I think Gonadin in a saline-based solution is effective, I’m just not sure how well it is mixing. My mixture with Estroban using contact lens solution as the solvent wasn't a mixture at all.)
So I start with a bottleful (~18ml) of a contact lens solution for my solvent. Then I drop in whatever solute I’m using. The bottle I’m using is the same one IdeaLabs uses for Progestene and Tyronene and will hold 360 drops of solvent (plus the 16 drops of solute you choose).
*Sixteen drops Progestene contains about 26 mg of progesterone; each ophthalmic drop would contain .071 mg, or a concentration of about .39%. (Compare to .05% concentration for a testosterone/progesterone drop I found online [link]; that’s the equivalent of .188 mg in 18 ml, or less than a third of a drop of Progestene.)
*Sixteen drops Tyronene contains 64 mcg of T3; each ophthalmic drop would contain .17 mcg, or a concentration of about .95%.
I’m going to continue my personal experimentation with these last two specifically.
I encourage your own experimentation so you can corroborate my results or tell me to take a hike.
~Chris
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