Judd Crane
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Are the flavones comt inhibitors?
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How did you get on with restarting your hormone production? Also, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your age?Because DHEA can bind to the estrogen receptors in the growth plates with way more affinity than estrogen itself, shutting it like estrogen would, and quickly as well. The only time it doesn't happen is if you use a SERD like Faslodex, SERDs basically degrade estrogen receptors, preventing anything from binding to it. hence it's being used to treat breast cancer and in some cases prostate cancer. Using the strongest AI wouldn't help either, since DHEA can bind to ERs, inhibiting estrogen synthesis will not be able to nullify the effect
The reason Ray Peat grew taller on DHEA is because he's older and hence DHEA increased his androgens significantly, which contributed to better overall posture and better cartilage health and spinal disk hydration, he never actually grew longer bones, that's impossible at his age. In a young guy, you won't see much height growth from DHEA, and if not used with SERD, might even close your window of growth.
And before someone here misrepresents my points, this is no way trying to discredit Ray Peat, I'm just sharing my opinion
In the podcast Haidut mentioned that the flavones get broken down very quickly in the digestive track, so might be a better option to use Gonadin topically, maybe on wrists, to increase the half life, thus needing a lower dose of the product, making it last longer.So after using this product more, I can confirm gonadin had nothing to do with stress reactions/digestive issues. I think this is a potent "adaptogen", but need to experiment more to confirm. Helps with stress levels and feeling good, more grounded and masculine (perhaps too chilled in the morning). I don't know what to pick between oral and topical route (haven't tried navel much). My one complaint so far : two servings of this product per day feel nice, but then it's crazy expensive.
@haidut, is it possible to have the possibility to buy a 30ml bottle with a reduction on the price per ml ? Is there one of these ingredients which is a lot more expensive than the others ? If so, have you considered selling a "gonadin-" wihtout it, at a cheaper price (if it still works as intended) ?
After I last posted here, i waited 5-6 weeks after to contact my doctor and ask for a blood work, since I showed them proof that I had low T. They tested my TSH, LH, Total T, SHBG, Calcium, vitamin B12, and then some general blood assement like my hematocrit and hemoglobin etc.How did you get on with restarting your hormone production? Also, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your age?
So it seems your body was in very good shape before being shut down, so you was able to naturally recover much faster without any hindrance.After I last posted here, i waited 5-6 weeks after to contact my doctor and ask for a blood work, since I showed them proof that I had low T. They tested my TSH, LH, Total T, SHBG, Calcium, vitamin B12, and then some general blood assement like my hematocrit and hemoglobin etc.
My Total T was over 605 ng/dl, with an LH of 1,4 IU/L and an SHBG of 41 nmol/l. Safe to say, I recovered smoothly without PCT, though my LH concerned me as It was flagged low in my bloodwork, but I still produce that much T relative to my LH levels. My TSH was 2, which when researching on this forum, apparently I have bad levels
I'm 20 years old.
Let's just say, I had higher expectations of the compound. It did help me grow my **** a lot, but as far as the mental benefits goes, not so much. It did however lower my e2 significantly, but that was about it.Do you think you got any benefits from taking the andractim? Was it worth it?
Lol it’s good to know it helped in growing your wangLet's just say, I had higher expectations of the compound. It did help me grow my **** a lot, but as far as the mental benefits goes, not so much. It did however lower my e2 significantly, but that was about it.
Doing more research on it, I wasn't surprised it wasn't as effective for anything else other than **** growth. Stanalone is considered a partial androgen due to its very high affinity to 3α-HSD, basically converting the DHT into a weaker metabolite, so with muscle performance, it didn't help anything in the gym.
Plus, taking it in gel form only makes like 10% of the dose available to use, and given my high SHBG, most of that were bound to it. So yeah, would I recommend it? If you want to grow your wang, then go ahead, mine is now very large. But if you want any mental or muscular benefits of this, its unfortunately not worth it.
I might actually do a thread on it, seeing as my results were quite significant, it could help people to give out a testimonialLol it’s good to know it helped in growing your wang
But seriously I think it would be good for you to make a testimonial thread, and document your experience with Andractim, because I’m sure a lot of people are looking to grow their penis.
This is something to use locally like those products (legitimate or fake?) For sale on Russian (UK) star peptides.I might actually do a thread on it, seeing as my results were quite significant, it could help people to give out a testimonial
Was you also using Gonadin at the same time of the experiment? Or have you ever used Gonadin?I might actually do a thread on it, seeing as my results were quite significant, it could help people to give out a testimonial
How much did you apply each time? Presumably it wasn’t in the flaccid state (forgive the crudeness)I might actually do a thread on it, seeing as my results were quite significant, it could help people to give out a testimonial
This is something to use locally like those products (legitimate or fake?) For sale on Russian (UK) star peptides.
I bought mine from ExpressPCT, so mine was legit.This is something to use locally like those products (legitimate or fake?) For sale on Russian (UK) star peptides.
Never used gonadinWas you also using Gonadin at the same time of the experiment? Or have you ever used Gonadin?
I put enough to cover my finger, and I administered it on my wang locally, and let it dry for 5 minutes.How much did you apply each time? Presumably it wasn’t in the flaccid state (forgive the crudeness)
Did it burn at all?
How much did it grow and how long did it take?I put enough to cover my finger, and I administered it on my wang locally, and let it dry for 5 minutes.
It did feel a bit burn, but that's no problem, its bot harmful, and the androgen receptors in your wang binds to the dht
It grew about 1,5 inches in a span of 2 months, so from 8 to 9,5 inches. But for the sake of it, 10 inchesHow much did it grow and how long did it take?