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tara said:I've been using Thorne vit-K2 for more than a year. I used to always have several visible bruises, and now I only see an occasional one. There may be other factors too (eg more sugar -> less clumsiness), but I gather vit-K can make this kind of a difference.
1 mg of mk4? That is nothing. I take 10 mg. and the research on mk7 should be taken with a grain of salt. It is cheaper to make and the research probably comes from the supplement companies selling it. Mk4 is the form found in animal foods from what I understand.freal said:I am asking since I just realized Carlson mk-4 in 1 mg dose that I have been taking is useless. I didnt even take care of the clotting?? Weird. For monhs I was bleeding while brushing teeth and flossing, now I took some spinach and it went away.
Maybe a higher dose is needed?
tara said:I've been using Thorne vit-K2 for more than a year. I used to always have several visible bruises, and now I only see an occasional one. There may be other factors too (eg more sugar -> less clumsiness), but I gather vit-K can make this kind of a difference.
How much do you take in mg/day? Thorne is a vitamin mk-4 in oil base right?
The research om mk-7 is much more promising.
JRMoney15 said:1 mg of mk4? That is nothing. I take 10 mg. and the research on mk7 should be taken with a grain of salt. It is cheaper to make and the research probably comes from the supplement companies selling it. Mk4 is the form found in animal foods from what I understand.
YuraCZ said:Btw grass fed beef liver vs grain fed beef liver same as grass fed butter (yellow color) vs grain fed butter(white color). There is a HUGE difference in vitK2 content..
YuraCZ said:Only Natto or goose liver are significant sources of vit K2 and K1 from the veggies is useless for calcium management..
Grass fed butter and meat has more vit K2, because cows convert K1 from the grass for us...schultz said:As far as the color goes, that is just carotenes from the grass. It really just acts as an indicator that an animal may be eating more green forage (which could also mean more vitamin K). Certain breeds of livestock have more carotene in the milk. Goats for example have milk that makes pure white butter because it contains vitamin a instead of carotene (which is better). The same goes for egg yolks. My chickens have dark yolks in the summer when they eat grass but in the winter I feed them a lot of beef liver. The eggs contain way more vitamin A in the winter because of the diet but are really pale.
YuraCZ said:Grass fed butter and meat has more vit K2, because cows convert K1 from the grass for us...schultz said:As far as the color goes, that is just carotenes from the grass. It really just acts as an indicator that an animal may be eating more green forage (which could also mean more vitamin K). Certain breeds of livestock have more carotene in the milk. Goats for example have milk that makes pure white butter because it contains vitamin a instead of carotene (which is better). The same goes for egg yolks. My chickens have dark yolks in the summer when they eat grass but in the winter I feed them a lot of beef liver. The eggs contain way more vitamin A in the winter because of the diet but are really pale.
freal said:I am asking since I just realized Carlson mk-4 in 1 mg dose that I have been taking is useless. I didnt even take care of the clotting?? Weird. For monhs I was bleeding while brushing teeth and flossing, now I took some spinach and it went away.
Maybe a higher dose is needed?
tara said:I've been using Thorne vit-K2 for more than a year. I used to always have several visible bruises, and now I only see an occasional one. There may be other factors too (eg more sugar -> less clumsiness), but I gather vit-K can make this kind of a difference.
How much do you take in mg/day? Thorne is a vitamin mk-4 in oil base right?
The research om mk-7 is much more promising.
tara said:I don't agree with Yura that 1mg is nothing. It is several times higher than estimated RDA, and should provide significant value if you are needing it.
johns74 said:
Wow, so chicken liver has a lot more MK4 than other types?
I found this one...schultz said:https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/84812/ I look forward to future research! (or old research that people can dig up)
Amazoniac said:45mg/d as Thorne suggests seems insanity!