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Wrinkles

Discussion in 'Skin' started by Rosie, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. Rosie

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    I wonder if anyone reversed deep wrinkles on here? Thank you:)
     
  2. Sobieski

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    I started to get deep wrinkles on my forehead, around my eyes and mouth. They are still present but far less visible.
     
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    I would be interested how did you achieve that?
     
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    Basically protein, sugar and saturated fat. The androgen/dopamine axis is very favourable to healthy, tight skin I've found although I'm not sure how this would help a female (pro dopamine is beneficial for both sexes though of course). Taurine, vit c, dark chocolate, high quality animal protein all helps greatly for me.
     
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    Any particular vitamin C you like?
     
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    What would you consider high quality animal proteins?
     
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    acerola powder seems to be safe
     
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    I just take plain ascorbic acid.
     
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    Collagen hydrolysate made a huge difference for me. And all over my body, not just my face. The tops of my feet looked bony and the skin was thin and inelastic. They just looked weirdly old for my age. The collagen “plumped” them up as well as a depression that developed on top of my nose. I think it has firmed and smoothed my face quite a bit since I started taking it about 6 years ago. I have noticed some pretty remarkable changes in others too. The collagen seems to really help skin to resist aging.
     
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    Meat, Milk and eggs
     
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    Just loads of orange juice does the trick!
     
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    Do you juice oranges yourself or have a particular brand you like?
     
  13. Vinero

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    Having wrinkles is often a sign of disturbed calcium metabolism.
    For example, people with osteoporosis or low bone density often have wrinkled skin.
    Things that are anabolic for the bones are usually also good for the skin.
    Vitamin D, K, Progesterone and the Androgens are things I would focus on.
     
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    red light therapy
     
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    What dose of red light is optimal?
     
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    I dont know if anyone knows whats optimal but the top researcher on LLLT from Harvard, DR Hamblin, recommends 10-15 J/cm2 for skin and 20-30 for deeper tissue issues.
    Red light man and Valtsu have articles on how to figure out dosing but you need to know the power density of your light
     
  17. Sobieski

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    I just drink cheap commercial orange juice, I actually drink the stuff with pulp in it without much in the way of negative effects.
     
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    Very wise @Vinero !!! It's just so true! What causes disturbed calcium metabolism? When you say androgens, how can you achieve androgen axis? Dhea? I just ordered some..
     
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    Rosie

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    I have a red/infrared mini from red light man. Could you please recommend how many cm distance I should hold it from the skin and for how long? I can't figure out according to those numbers. Thank you.
     
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    Topical DHEA works great for increasing androgens (I use pansterone), oral DHEA makes me irritable which suggests it converts to estrogen.
     
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