Will We Be Forced To Take The Covid Vaccine When Its Here?

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  1. DMF

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    Like it reads...I myself probably wont want to
     
  2. boris

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    Maybe not in this pandemic but after pandemic 2 or 3 (the sequels seem to be already planned if you listen to Gates words). I'd say definitely yes. Europe is already preparing vaccination IDs. German politicians constantly hinting at mandatory vaccination if poeple don't take it voluntarily.

    At the moment a large percentage of people is against it. I think they will try and incentivize it first, for example making vaccination required to be eligible for UBI or current welfare, or being able to travel, or being allowed to participate in events/gatherings like concerts etc.
     
  3. Drareg

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    This exactly what they are doing, you can’t travel, work etc.
    I posted about the world economic forum via the world banks new covid immunity app due this September ,the propaganda is being ramped up as we speak ,lockdowns still ongoing even though it’s a proven covid 19 is just a spike and drops off, this why they can’t pump the deaths narrative anymore ,instead it’s covid cases.

    COVID 19 Health Passport Is Here!
     
  4. boris

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    He doesn't say it's mandatory, but he uses some unfortunate language:

    Trump when asked about how the vaccine will be distributed:
    "When we have the vaccine we have the military all lined up and the military is going to be doing it in a very powerful manner."

     
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    I know a few 80 yr olds who can't wait for the vaccine, because they think things will return to normal.

    True believers in "better life through chemistry".

    I tell them they are the lucky ones. They don't have much time left anyway.
     
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    Fauci Gates Redfield and Pelosi FIRST
     
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    That sounds more like there will be so many people who will want it but they wont have enough supply, so they will need the military to oversee the administration in case people overreact/riot for not being included as the ones who need it the most.

    But Im sure when they have enough supply for everyone, they will try to make it mandatory for all.
     
  8. boris

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    @pepsi I didn't see it that way, but I think you might be right
     
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    And there will be a return to 'normal' when the vaccine comes. They will want to make people believe that it's successful by stopping the news machine.

    Sadly that will only convince the masses that vaccines are a gift from the heavens and peer pressure will get incredibly strong.

    These last few months have been a sad, sad turn of events for the worse.
     
  10. Drareg

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    He’s fully behind it IMO, he is playing his role in the dialectic , his money laundering friends and Epstein links are all part of this, this digital immunity passport via the blockchain is what they want. Everyone monitored so they can easily cover up their child sex trafficking rings, money laundering in the trillions etc
    Why is it the main covid players all have Epstein links like Bill Gates for example, the media has its Epstein links also along with their links into money laundering, don’t forget the banks, the elites need to know what we are doing or they risk being exposed.
    Let’s see what he is made of once push comes to shove.
     
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    lmao.....here in nyc the dumbed down pathetic farm animals...meaning 99% of the population CANT WAIT TO LINE UP....its a joke
     
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    "Most serious problem?" What a freakin LIE. One virus that's only associated (not causal) with 1.7% of deaths in a partial year.

    It's not even the most serious health problem right now. It's not even in the top 5.
     
  13. boris

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    That's harmless :lol:. Do you know what Merkel said in a speech to the german citizens.... That it's the biggest challenge for our country since the 2nd World War.

     
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    I don't know why you have to try and link Trump and Epstein. It's clear that they knew each other, but that in itself is meaningless. If you can find pictures of Trump on the Island, or get testimony out of someone like Virginia Roberts, then it's a bigger deal. But nothing like that has surfaced. You can probably find a "link" between any celebrity or powerful figure and Epstein, if for nothing else than Epstein was trying to target and entrap them.

    The bigger, and more obvious problem, is Trump's connection to, and seeming endorsement of Anthony Fauci. Fauci is a longstanding medical criminal, dating back to the 80s. Fauci predicted that 90 Million people would die of AIDS by the 90s, an utterly ridiculous claim, up there with the Ferguson models. He profited off the drugs used to kill AIDS patients. Fauci should have been fired months ago (really years ago), and should be standing trial for Fraud, Medical Murder, and Treason. I do hope there is a bigger plan out there (sure, 4D chess, if you will), but every day I see Mini-Mengele out there, I doubt it.

    Of course, maybe you are right. Maybe there is serious blackmail on Trump. It would be at least one explanation for his seeming incompetence on this issue, as Jon Rappoport laid out here- Dispatches from the War: New York, Trump, physical freaks « Jon Rappoport's Blog

    "What do they have on President Trump? Is it his taxes? Something much worse? A night in a hotel room? I’m asking, because the US GDP has just dropped more than 30 percent this past quarter—the greatest collapse in US history. Bar none. And what is the president saying, what is he doing? Besides wearing a black mask. And talking about operation warp speed to develop a killer Gates vaccine. And wondering whether the presidential election should be postponed.

    Recently, I wrote five consecutive pieces directed at Trump, urging him to use the full power of his office to force open the economy of the country, come hell or high water, deploying the military or the DOJ—because the economic wreckage was that bad, and the danger line had been crossed months ago—and how much more evidence does the man need to convince himself this is an economic war being waged against The People, under the cover of a fake pandemic? Does he need Fauci to confess before a tribunal, Gates to admit he’s a Howdy Doody eugenicist on YouTube, the UN to issue a directive swearing allegiance to Mao and Stalin and Lenin and turning over its priceless piece of NYC real estate donated by Rockefeller to ANTIFA? Would that do it? Does he need raging mobs of dispossessed and evicted Americans attacking the White House and being gunned down by troops? Would that do it? Does he need a spinning silver Saucer landing in the Rose Garden with gray men stepping out holding a communique from the Milky Way Council of Elders stating America is finished? Would that be enough? Or does the president just want to wear a black mask and not find his ass with both hands?"
     
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    @tankasnowgod
    It's more than "they knew each other" though. They were friends and Epstein even introduced Trump's current wife to him.

    Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery
    “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” -Donald Trump, NY Magazine 2002



    .....I agree on the bigger and more obvious problem though.
     
  16. Drareg

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    Great points.

    The reality is he does have links to a global mafia that involves Russians ,Israelis, saudis ,USA ,UK and many others from questionable states. They are the ones involved with mass money laundering in the trillions, they use casinos and property in many cases to launder the money, Sheldon adelsons casino in Singapore was recently caught doing it, they use countries like Russia or the nearby states like Kazakhstan to launder ,As we know the intelligence organizations have been accessing this black market for years, it’s drug trafficking, human trafficking and anything illegal in general, they are involved.
    You can consider its members elites, what appears to be happening now is a war of elites ongoing , they are both corrupt. This is the mafia who Epstein dealt with, providing blackmail material and probably kids also.
    What they have on Trump is in around these nefarious practices, they have the same on the Clintons and many more.

    If you search you will find numerous people exposing it, be careful of the shills, if they are blaming Israel for everything and not mentioning Russia, blaming China for everything etc, it transcends any one country, the rothschilds are highly likely to have kept their real wealth in this world.

    With regard to Epstein , elites to countries mentioned have their shills in alt media, operation mockingbird is still active but remember the elites have the money to pull off their own version of mockingbird.
    I’m watching some of them trying to take control of the narrative on Epstein and they are fanatically pro covid lockdowns and mask wearing, they are vehemently anti trump but pro Biden and Clinton!
    Vicky Ward is an example of a mainstream fraud trying to control Epstein narratives, she has been found out via the maxwell document release to be an alibi for Ghislaine Maxwell, ward is trying to limit contagion from Epstein into the British establishments rampant paedophile problem, they are trying to cut it off at Andrew.
    I gave the alt media types the benefit of the doubt in the initial stages of covid19 but now with all the data available it’s becoming clearer they are shilling, I’ve seen little mention of gates from them, it’s such an elephant in the room when you consider who gates scientific advisor was.

    In the end it seems both sides or many factions of elites all want the masses tagged so they can monitor them, the chess game between them now is about who has more dirt on the other , how bad will that dirt be perceived by the public. An example is CNN’s relentless news coverage of trump in 2016 , they knew about his money laundering links and could have painted a much clearer picture to public but didn’t ,they instead ran infantile stories about him, this wasn’t an accident when you look at the owner of CNN and his links.
    Boris Johnson for example is involved with this mafia via the Russian link, they have kompromat on him , the British recently appointed nIColEjUnKeRmAnN to oversee an NHS covid app, she linked into Israeli carbyne tech company. (Careful with using that name on here, she is a libelous obsessed psycho, promote her everywhere else though)

    I’m guessing here but IMO this war of elites has started many years ago, the mafia in the black market to include putin/Netanyahu/China and the like seen where the western elites were going with crypto currency and blockchain, basically tracking everyone and taking them and the black market out of business and in jail , Putin and friends are going for bust, they are not trying to save us as commonly touted by the alt shills , they want to control the system, disrupt the west as they are doing and we can’t build the system, they will potentially become stronger by using these systems in their countries is what western elites believe. It’s a technocratic war.
    Being "peaty" we know both sides have delusional understandings of reality.

    Keep an eye on the alt media whatever side they claim to be on, watch how many are all pro covid lockdowns and masks, watch how they will be pro covid immunity passports, pro crypto etc , this is the jig.
     
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    I don't know what you mean by "friends." If it is true that Epstein introduced Meliania to Donald...... so what? Being a potential matchmaker between adults isn't illegal, and it's not what the darker story behind Epstein is about. And a quote about Epstein from a Magazine in 2002 is also meaningless.

    This also ignores the fact that the prosecutor in the 2009 case against Epstein has stated that Trump was quite helpful and forthcoming in the case-

    Prosecutor in 2009 Epstein Case Said Donald Trump Was the ONLY ONE Who Helped Him

    "The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009." -Attorney Brad Edwards
     
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    Things will never return to normal, I`m afraid, no matter what.
     
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    Yeah, it was not meant as any kind of proof. You said they knew each other and what I mean by friends is that I think the way he talks about him is more than just "knowing" a guy.

    It was just to make a point that they were friends.
     
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    The problem is Trumps circle of friends and Epstein’s links added to what trump is doing now as president or more not doing as president, It’s not possible it’s just famous people meeting many people when we look at the characters overall and their links.
    We know Barr’s father knew Epstein, we know Barr was involved with Iran contra, Barr’s father writing erotic sex slave books, he hired Epstein to be a maths teacher at an all girls school. Trump put Barr where he is for a reason.
    Acosta gave a plea deal to Epstein, trump hired him. Both Barr and Acosta were crucial to prosecuting Epstein and maxwell yet trump choose them.
    Trumps links to Roy Cohn.
    Melania comes from a model agency modeled on MC2 by jeanne luc brunel who is a paedophile.

    Is everything trump is doing 4d chess to bring down a child sex trafficking ring? Clearly by his actions so far it’s not, it’s more the opposite, cover up.
     
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