Will Succinic Acid Chelate Copper From Arteries?

[TreasureVibe]

Hey all. As the title states. According to the following source, succinic acid is able to chelate copper in a strong way:

Aesthetics Journal

Could this dangerously chelate copper from arteries causing loss of wall integrity?

Dr. Ray Peat is a proponent of succinic acid, he said it is able to safely chelate heavy metals from the brain, hence the inquiry regarding copper.

Thanks y'all.

 

[TreasureVibe]

Bump!

 

[LCohen]

AFAIK Copper holds estrogen and estrogen holds more copper. Can it be a stress inducer because of estrogen ? Is copper really important for arteries ?

Zinc antagonizes both copper and estrogen.

 

[TreasureVibe]

AFAIK Copper holds estrogen and estrogen holds more copper. Can it be a stress inducer because of estrogen ? Is copper really important for arteries ?

Zinc antagonizes both copper and estrogen.

"Copper (Cu) is essential both for its role in antioxidant enzymes, like Cu/zinc (Zn) superoxide dismutase (SOD) and ceruloplasmin, as well as its role in lysyl oxidase, essential for the strength and integrity of the heart and blood vessels."

Source: Cardiovascular Effects of Copper Deficiency on Activity of Superoxide Dismutase in Diabetic Nephropathy

"Connective tissue formation
Another cuproenzyme, lysyl oxidase, is required for the cross-linking of collagen and elastin, which are essential for the formation of strong and flexible connective tissue. The action of lysyl oxidase helps maintain the integrity of connective tissue in the heart and blood vessels and also plays a role in bone formation (2)."

Source: Copper

"Abstract
Although the nutritional essentiality of copper was established in 1928, a preoccupation with hematology delayed the discovery of cardiovascular disease from copper deficiency for more than a decade. Anatomical studies of several species of deficient animals revealed, interalia, aortic fissures and rupture, arterial foam cells and smooth muscle migration, cardiac enlargement and rupture, coronary artery thrombosis and myocardial infarction. Abnormal biochemistry in deficiency probably contributes to these lesions, e.g., decreased activities of lysyl oxidase and superoxide dismutase which result in failure of collagen and elastin crosslinking and impaired defense against free radicals. Copper deficiency also decreases copper in hearts and other organs and cells and increases cholesterol in plasma. Abnormal physiology from deficiency includes abnormal electrocardiograms, glucose intolerance and hypertension. People with ischemic heart disease have decreased cardiac and leucocyte copper and decreased activities of some copper-dependent enzymes. Copper depletion experiments with men and women have revealed abnormalities of lipid metabolism, blood pressure control, and electrocardiograms plus impaired glucose tolerance. The Western diet often is as low in copper as that proved insufficient for these people. Knowledge of nutritional history can be useful in addressing contemporary nutritional problems."

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/public...ular_Disease_from_Copper_Deficiency-A_History

However:

"Some people try to obtain copper by wearing copper bracelets, a popular item with older people suffering from arthritis. Although some copper does pass though the skin, relieving some symptoms, Hulda Clark warns against the pure mineral version of copper, finding that it's often involved in cancer tumors. Wallach also cautions against the metallic form. Supplementation with copper is instead obtained through colloidal copper, or copper compounds more acceptable to the body."

Source: Copper: What aneurysms, white hair, and wrinkles have in common

 

[ddjd]

AFAIK Copper holds estrogen and estrogen holds more copper. Can it be a stress inducer because of estrogen ? Is copper really important for arteries ?

Zinc antagonizes both copper and estrogen.

Cytochrome c oxidase and ATP production are completely dependent on copper

 

[ddjd]

Hey all. As the title states. According to the following source, succinic acid is able to chelate copper in a strong way:

Aesthetics Journal

Could this dangerously chelate copper from arteries causing loss of wall integrity?

Dr. Ray Peat is a proponent of succinic acid, he said it is able to safely chelate heavy metals from the brain, hence the inquiry regarding copper.

Thanks y'all.

are you taking the succinic acid?

 

[Broken man]

Somebody wrote Ray about succinic acid and chelating and he wrote that he doesnt recomend it, that its produced endogenously.

 

[Broken man]

Something new about this?

 

[TreasureVibe]

are you taking the succinic acid?

Tried capsules a couple of times, felt weird in the brain right after, so kind of stopped it after that because of that.

 

[aquaman]

Haidut mentioned this issue in the latest Danny Roddy YouTube interview they did, ie being careful with the use of Succinic acid. What this means, he didn’t expand on. He said it’s an excellent chelation of all metals.

Maybe having more copper when using Succinic acid?

 

[Broken man]

The thing is that there Is a tons of websites recommending succinic acid And if you Will read People experiences, you Will find no problems.