Brian Justus
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I know Peat mentioned that wine and beer are very estrogenic, but what exactly does alcohol do to the liver that makes it dangerous? (Stupid Question I know)
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I think, after I learnt about alcohol, that many people wrongly associate it with liver health first.
It actually does do much more horrible damage to one,s kidneys, pancreas and brain.
The liver can easily regenerate itself from booze. The other mentioned organs - not so much, or even not at all.
Peat has said that the number one burden of the liver is to detoxify estrogen. So when the liver is detoxifying ethanol, is it not able to detoxify estrogen as well as usual, so you start accumulating more estrogen in the tissues.
Also, detoxifying ethanol burns up a lot of resources, nutrients, etc.
Alcohol seems mostly harmless, if responsibly consumed in the context of low PUFA and iron. Beer has hops, and wine I think has some estrogens. Personally I avoid beer and consuming more than 3 drinks a day. For a woman I'd limit to alcohol to one drink or 2 drinks for the average sized male.
https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh22-3/220.pdf
Low levels of alcohol are obviously tolerable, but look at the rate of mouth and throat cancer in heavy drinkers. I haven't double checked but I've read that they are significantly elevated. It has even been claimed that alcohol mouthwash users get oral cancer at accelerated rates, although the industry apparently fought off lawsuits. (But then so did the talcum powder people even though the evidence seems strong that at least some of it is really carcinogenic.)
I use a product by Burt's Bees that is talc-free. If you're a chronic mouthwash user, I'd say consider the alcohol free alternatives.
Personally I have about 1 drink a week and don't worry about it in the slightest. But I don't expose myself needlessly to alcohol (e.g. constantly using hand cleaners).
I think, after I learnt about alcohol, that many people wrongly associate it with liver health first.
It actually does do much more horrible damage to one,s kidneys, pancreas and brain.
The liver can easily regenerate itself from booze. The other mentioned organs - not so much, or even not at all.
What i remember from a lecture, it messes up one,s neurotransmitters for sure. Don,t remember it was reversible or not.How bad is the brain damage? I have a proposenity to blackout when I drink.
What i remember from a lecture, it messes up one,s neurotransmitters for sure. Don,t remember it was reversible or not.
The other thing is at what age one started drinking. If early, as i did for ex., it leads to structural changes making u dumber, that are IRREVERSIBLE.
Cheers!
This is off the top of my head, but doesn't alcohol significantly decrease HGH and testosterone levels and decrease protein synthesis? I don't drink at all because of these reasons since I am a natural bodybuilder, and I've always found that even casual drinkers seem to develop "dad bod/dad appearance" cumulatively, whereas I have virtually no visceral fat, no hair loss, no wrinkles, etc, which I've associated with low alcohol intake. I'm sure things like pufa and stress also play significant roles in that aging process too though.
This is off the top of my head, but doesn't alcohol significantly decrease HGH and testosterone levels and decrease protein synthesis? I don't drink at all because of these reasons since I am a natural bodybuilder, and I've always found that even casual drinkers seem to develop "dad bod/dad appearance" cumulatively, whereas I have virtually no visceral fat, no hair loss, no wrinkles, etc, which I've associated with low alcohol intake. I'm sure things like pufa and stress also play significant roles in that aging process too though.
If you're adapted to regular consumption of alcohol I think it's fine. I have two drinks most evenings. I tend to end up getting properly loaded about once a month. I think the people who freak out in reaction to alcohol are like people who claim milk or wheat intolerance. They mostly just don't consume it regularly and so aren't adapted to it.
Every year I also do lent dry, or go the whole way from new years day to easter dry. I notice nothing different in terms of health. I maybe lean out a little bit but I'm not sure. I tend to be a bit less creative and have fewer fresh ideas when never loosening up with a few drinks.