Why P*rn Is Toxic For Men

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Porn doesn’t make you beta being beta makes you watch porn.

Abstaining from porn isn’t going to suddenly boost creativity, inspiration, motivation, etc... in the absence of an appropriate diet.

If your diet is giving you “100 dopamines” to work with, and you blow it all on porn, that’s your prerogative. Solely stopping porn isn’t going to give you “200 dopamines”.

Eat a solid diet and that will boost your dopamines, hormones, etc... and suddenly porn becomes incredibly fake. The body will crave real flesh and not some bs pixels.

In my opinion abstaining does very little if you don’t fix the underlying state. I stopped for 94 days and didn’t feel a damn difference besides occasional extreme sexual agitation, which was not pleasant. My diet still was not an optimal health diet so I was still plagued with the issues I was attempting to fight. On the contrast, if I eat one good meal I’m ready to take on the world.

I don’t think porn is a good thing, but I think people overhype it’s cessation with the ability to fix all sorts of issues. It’s only a piece in the puzzle, and the size of this piece depends on how frequent it’s use was. For many men I don’t think it’s what is significantly contributing to their poor dopamine and hormone levels. For those who highly abuse it, it’s significance increases.
 

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Thanks dude wbu?
Used to have a porn addiction, stopped maybe 5 years ago. Masturabte maybe once a year, but I have had a girlfriend so it has not been that difficult. Wet dreams seem to be the release valve if things get too loaded up, and they are not nearly as draining as Porn/mastur.
 

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I'm not cheer leading for porn, but I find it interesting that we as a society have NO problem with our addiction to violence (for decades and decades). Every show, movie, or game is based around guns and killing, knives and stabbing, etc. You are vilified if you watch a movie with two people having sex (something natural and what life was predicated on), but you can watch all the blood and guts you want. The next time you watch TV or view movie lists, amaze yourself how we are fed the mindset that violence, etc. is entertaining, and,of course, won't brain- wash our children to think it is okay We glorify wars with movies, cop shows, and there is relatively no time in any show that some sort of violence doesn't occur. The school shootings and all the crimes you see out in the street didn't get their ideas from porn. I don't No-Fap, and I don't wack off several times a day, but I'll take pron over the mind poisoning crap that most of humanity seems to think is just okay.

I notice that too. Something like the Avengers series- not really bloody violence, per se, but violence nonetheless, and probably leaves imprinting on children psyches that violence can solve any problem. Most parents are perfectly ok having their kids watch all the series, collect the toys, costumes, etc.
But a movie that shows a woman's breasts? Sound the alarm! Can't expose our kids to such filth!
 

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I agree porn does desensitize the brain to dopamine somewhat, but I’m not sure what does more damage. I think ejaculating multiple times per day regularly when the body is not in a high androgen and metabolic state might also be desensitizing androgen receptors. Might be doing something with pituitary overactivity as well with stimulating prolactin release when it wasn’t fully recovered from the last prolactin spike yet.

It doesn’t seem the male reproductive system evolved to ejaculate multiple times per day or even once per day chronically in a lower metabolic state and can become dysregulated. The caution for men to not excessively ejaculate goes back all the way into ancient history before anything like internet porn ever existed. Internet porn just makes it very easy to masturbate excessively.

Considering this I think recovering from excessive porn/masturbation should also consider ways to restore androgen receptor sensitivity and pituitary function.

I think the psychological damages and the philosophy of it are understudied and underestimated. And I know some people immediately go to “objectification” and “violence against women” and other such things, which I have no idea about, but I’m talking about how pornography sterilizes sexual intimacy and perverts romantic expression. It ruins self esteem of its habitual consumers and I think guilt and shame for having watched men and women perform degrading and vulgar acts plays no small part in that. Most pornography today is disgusting. That’s not just a moral judgement, it’s disgusting aesthetically and artistically and thematically as well.
 
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Porn wires the brain to enjoy and get pleasure from other people having sex on a screen. That makes real sex less pleasurable and often difficult to even achieve.

The key though is to avoid fantasy. Avoiding fantasy is the missing piece for men who avoid porn and find that they aren’t benefiting.

You use various distraction techniques when a fantasy enters your brain. Practice talking to girls and looking them in the eye. After awhile (it can take many months) you won’t have sex scenes playing in your head anymore and you will enter a new level of connection with women.
 

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I'm not cheer leading for porn, but I find it interesting that we as a society have NO problem with our addiction to violence (for decades and decades).

Or our addiction to consumerism and work.


Puritan cultures only ever demonize behaviors that involve pleasure or personal choice. People discovering the life isn't all about hard work, guilt, duty, suffering, deference to authority etc is a threat

They are also obsessed with abstinence and self hatred so no fap fits nicely with that.

I think there is a bit of a pecking order to it as well. If women prefer men who don't do it, then all of a sudden men start caring....
 
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I've done no-fap for a year. I didn't notice anything in my health or my relationships with women. Just wet dreams and the increased laundry that came with it.


People seek out stimulation of all sorts when they are dull,bored,frustrated,stressed,agitated. The more dull the more you crave. Some stimulants add problems. Abstinence can't fix everything though.
 
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I remember one time I was doing nofap noporn for probably like 20 days ish, I went to the doctor for an appt, he took my temp, I was shocked he told me it was around 99+, no supplements no thyroid or anything
 

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I remember one time I was doing nofap noporn for probably like 20 days ish, I went to the doctor for an appt, he took my temp, I was shocked he told me it was around 99+, no supplements no thyroid or anything
Otherwise what was your temperature?
 

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What would have people done before porn? Before they never felt trapped in a cage? There was no excessive masturbation before porn or there wasn't any masturbation at all?
I am really curious what happened before porn was accessible at the tips of your fingers and what about before when there was no porn at all to be seen?
 
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Used to have a porn addiction, stopped maybe 5 years ago. Masturabte maybe once a year, but I have had a girlfriend so it has not been that difficult. Wet dreams seem to be the release valve if things get too loaded up, and they are not nearly as draining as Porn/mastur.
Good man! Sounds good let me take the everest now with my streak. Hopefully I can achieve this Simple goal.
 

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What would have people done before porn? Before they never felt trapped in a cage? There was no excessive masturbation before porn or there wasn't any masturbation at all?
I am really curious what happened before porn was accessible at the tips of your fingers and what about before when there was no porn at all to be seen?
Everyone got married early, had sex with each other and had 12 kids
 

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Cuz fap is stress, unless ur metabolism can handle it u should be all right, but if compromised it's not good



Not over 98.6, I see how all the people who claim that they nofap helped their hair after that

98.6 seems to be a good temperature.

Now 97.5 would be a low temp
 

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Everyone got married early, had sex with each other and had 12 kids

Alright, yeah early marrying and lots of kinds.
I guess sex might have been a total different thing back for 99% of the population. First I think oral sex would have been something that some would have not even thought or imagined, or at least not imagined to the level of which porn sets the standard to. So I guess "seeing less" was somehow like knowing less and in a way wanting less/being more satisfied to what was the "norm"

I think that sex today is far from the sex before pornography became massive. An example would be the classic porn ending with the ejaculation on the face, I am sure in 1920 that was far from the 95%s fantasy.

And this would be the most dull way to explain it, I doubt anyone is watching porn to see a penis in a vagina ignoring anything else going in in the videos. I believe it is very wrong to say that porn shows only "sex", it shows massive fantasies with the bodies and number of people each watcher prefers , which is far from seeing a penis in a vagina, far far from it.
 

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t doesn’t seem the male reproductive system evolved to ejaculate multiple times per day or even once per day chronically in a lower metabolic state and can become dysregulated. The caution for men to not excessively ejaculate goes back all the way into ancient history before anything like internet porn ever existed. Internet porn just makes it very easy to masturbate excessively.

I think this is the heart of the issue, and it is a very recent phenomenon, happening in the last 15 years or so. While there have probably been issues with porn since the 50's, it really started surfacing in the last decade, with the advent of high speed internet porn. It used to be something you had to seek out and pay for, and was pretty limited. Now, it's basically "free," it and can seek men out, and can offer a seemingly unlimited number of films and genres, some very bizarre. I've heard of psycologists who used to think porn was okay use to use in the 90s and such that have changed their opinion due to these factors in internet porn.
 

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Would any with a girlfriend start watching porn because being unsatisfied with girlfriend or with himself in terms of sexuality?


For example you don't have to watch porn to know about all kind of kinky stuff, your friends can easily tell you something like, I gotta go home cause my girlfriend is begging me for sex. Now you think, well my girlfriend is not begging me for sex, hmm...

Another guy says, dude, I took this and that and ****88 this girl for this much time in this type of way. I won't describe it here.

Another guys says, I really wanted to have sex with two chicks and I have finally found one that would be willing for a threesome and I've done it.

I had once a colleague who used to turn on his cellphone and show various cumshots he did with this chick or the other chick, for him this was really funny.

Now all these things are real life and they aren't that hard to come by and I could go on and on.

What I mean here people don't have to necessary learn about fantasies and possibilities that far from the missionary position from porn, simple interaction with people can easily expose one to various sexual OMGs. Then some sort of unhappiness can start, oh my girlfriend does not want to do a threesome with another chick, or maybe who knows, cliché stuff like, that chick would never have sex with me I am out of her league, et.c

Maybe a bit too blunt for this forum. But the bottom line if you have a social life it is hard to not be exposed to way more than lemme just have "regular church approved sex with my girlfriend"
Your are going to be exposed to fantasies without having to watch porn and somehow un-satisfaction can also start from there.
 

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