DDRB
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Ii believe what i've seen on the ray peat forum and other places, carbs should make you more masculine by optimizing testosterone production (+gnrh) and uptake (detaching testosterone from shbg and albumin), they should also make you more muscular thanks to insulin.
However, to start with my personal case, I eat a lot of carbohydrates (+400mg per day) and I am thin, but I still have some water retention which makes me look "fat" which only disappears when I eat less calories OR a lot less carbs, when I was on low-carb I looked slimmer (less water, especially on the midsection), I almost had the "apollo belt " somehow.
To compare the different figures of the different diets, as I have already said in one of my old topics the promoters of lowcarb/keto diets etc) generally have at worst a "masculine" air, calm, concise, rational, and at best are particularly androgenic especially when they play sports.
Besides most proponents of high carb or vegetarian diets are either skinny, overweight and generally have little muscle tone, the only strong vegetarians/high-carbists I know are or have been doped or at least do a LOT of exercise and are not low fat.
To quote two YouTubers with the opposite course:
-Hench Herbivore: He's a bodybuilder, he was doped so there's a bias but if you watch his very early videos you can clearly see he was much more "androgenic" in his attitude, I saw a video where he is in a gym and explains how the machines work, he looks calm, composed and serious.
Today he looks like a typical hysterical vegan, constantly makes dirty videos, regularly shows himself shirtless (narcisistic), has exaggerated or even fake facial expressions, "honey is bee vomit bweee"
Conversely, Vegetable Police:
I like him, he looks a lot like me in some respects, when he was vegan he looked like a fragile lambda vegan, then because of intestinal problems he adopted at some point a very high fat diet, with some carbohydrates ( coconut water), most of whose calories came from beef fat, avocado and meat.
He was in fact never as manly as when he was on this diet and basically went from a fragile physique to a strong man physique, muscular front, more imposing forearms, curiously a more androgenic haircut too , it is quite impressive.
he became lean and weak on a vegan/high carb diet then regained weight by reintroducing meat and fats
However, to start with my personal case, I eat a lot of carbohydrates (+400mg per day) and I am thin, but I still have some water retention which makes me look "fat" which only disappears when I eat less calories OR a lot less carbs, when I was on low-carb I looked slimmer (less water, especially on the midsection), I almost had the "apollo belt " somehow.
To compare the different figures of the different diets, as I have already said in one of my old topics the promoters of lowcarb/keto diets etc) generally have at worst a "masculine" air, calm, concise, rational, and at best are particularly androgenic especially when they play sports.
Besides most proponents of high carb or vegetarian diets are either skinny, overweight and generally have little muscle tone, the only strong vegetarians/high-carbists I know are or have been doped or at least do a LOT of exercise and are not low fat.
To quote two YouTubers with the opposite course:
-Hench Herbivore: He's a bodybuilder, he was doped so there's a bias but if you watch his very early videos you can clearly see he was much more "androgenic" in his attitude, I saw a video where he is in a gym and explains how the machines work, he looks calm, composed and serious.
Today he looks like a typical hysterical vegan, constantly makes dirty videos, regularly shows himself shirtless (narcisistic), has exaggerated or even fake facial expressions, "honey is bee vomit bweee"
Conversely, Vegetable Police:
I like him, he looks a lot like me in some respects, when he was vegan he looked like a fragile lambda vegan, then because of intestinal problems he adopted at some point a very high fat diet, with some carbohydrates ( coconut water), most of whose calories came from beef fat, avocado and meat.
He was in fact never as manly as when he was on this diet and basically went from a fragile physique to a strong man physique, muscular front, more imposing forearms, curiously a more androgenic haircut too , it is quite impressive.
he became lean and weak on a vegan/high carb diet then regained weight by reintroducing meat and fats