Why Do I Need Less Thyroid When I’m On Antibiotics?

Discussion in 'Thyroid and Hormones' started by Ravenslore, Mar 14, 2020.

  1. Ravenslore

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    I’m on amoxicillin-clavulanate 875 mg-125 mg oral tablets right now (halfway through 7 days) for a sinus infection and I noticed my thyroid is suddenly high.

    normally i am stable on 13 drops/day TyroMax. I’ve been using that for years.

    I recalled that this happens every time I go on antibiotics. I never remember to expect it. But always a few days into a course of antibiotics I start having trouble sleeping. I get a high heart rate with a restless feeling and dry swollen eyes and know my thyroid dose is a shade high and needs to be adjusted.

    then after I stop antibiotics it goes back to normal. Maybe this has something to do with being on tetracycline for years at a time in high school?

    i’m 40 years old, female. I’ve had hypothyroidism since about 2006. It developed some time during the period I was managing a bakery, then started working in a stock room with refugees from Iran and Somalia, and then got Whooping Cough and was bed ridden for a month. My mom and my sister also have hypothyroidism. My sister’s is confirmed Hashimotos.

    what does this fluctuating dosage requirement mean about the cause of my thyroid problem?
     
  2. Tarmander

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    It's a good question. I notice lower blood sugars while on antibiotics, and also some of the symptoms you mentioned like restlessness.

    Is it the bacteria die off? The action of the antibiotic itself?

    I noticed it more with minocycline then with erythromycin
     
  3. boris

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    Sounds like an underlying low grade infection is lowering your thyroid activity.

    Could for example be bacterial overgrowth in the gut.

    Peaty ways to keep gut bacteria in check would be limiting starchy foods and avoiding certain types of fiber like raw salads etc and focusing more on fruits. If you eat starch, then potatoes, rice, sourdough and nixtamalized corn is best. Regular bread and resistant starches feed bacteria. Combine starch with fat to limit inflammatory processes.
    A raw carrot a day or cooked mushrooms to sweep out the intestine.
     
  4. theLaw

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    100%. :darts: Just start looking at people's tongues; they're basically all coated, no matter how healthy they look.

    I would only add that even when you get rid of the infection you still need to address the underlying issue (probably compromised liver) or it will return.

    Personally, I don't think that removing starches is practical for everyone, so cleaning out the liver (caffeine/taurine/Vit K/glycine), and then finding a practical maintenance schedule for keeping the gut clean is a viable alternative.

    Cheers!:D
     
  5. foodandtheworld

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    Haidut mentions that infection can prevent thyroid from working in this Generative Energy (13:11 in):
     
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    I'm not sure if my tongue gets coated because I clean it pretty aggressively when i brush.

    I've loosened up starch (from root vegetables) restrictions over the past year because prior to that I'd been on a strict ketogenic diet for far too long and it severely impacted my metabolism. I do avoid fibers other than carrots and artichoke hearts. I eat raw carrots every morning.

    Mostly my diet is pasture raised soft boiled eggs, a little kefir with pasture raised chicken gelatin and marmalade in it, an orange or grapefruit, sometimes a banana, goat cheese with honey, and then I often have sprouted organic cocoa rice krispies for dinner or no dinner... depending if I'm hungry or not. I drink a ton of coffee with Himalayan salt, sugar and A2 milk in it throughout the day. I take magnesium glycinate and a B complex with niacinimide in it. . . . I think that's about it most days. If my calories are inadequate sometimes i splurge on tapioca pearl tea, a mashed potato or Brazilian cheese rolls. . . or just a chunk of grass-fed cheddar cheese.

    These are all good suggestions. I think I will look into restricting myself to foods that digest completely before reaching the large intestine. It's possible I could have had an infection in there for a long long time, since this thyroid issue has been there a long time. Although I think I would have killed it all off once when I did a 43 day raw goat milk fast.

    Thanks for the help. Let me know if anyone has a good resource for information about foods that digest before the large intestine.
     
  7. Michael Mohn

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    I think your calories and protein are inadequate. Just a hunch. Try eating 30g of protein for breakfast (better every meal). Only animal protein counts. Your metabolism might raise without the need for thyroid. And don't eat grapefruit, blocks your liver!
     
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    Are cheese, eggs and gelatin enough or does it have to be from meat?
     
  9. Michael Mohn

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    On paper dairy & eggs should be fine, in reality I find meat much more anabolic then dairy&egg or fish but that might be just preference. Gelatin shouldn't be counted into your protein needs.
     
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