Why didn't Trump warn about a PEACEFUL march on Washington ?

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Why didn't TRUMP anticipate his huge manifestation could be taken advantage of by agent provocateurs, and defused it preemptively by making it very clear everywhere in the medias BEFORE THE 6 th JANUARY he wanted a PEACEFUL and NON VIOLENT event ?

Quite convenient that all the evidence about voter fraud couldn't be discussed in Washington and then the press afterwards, drowned in the attention given to the Capitol drama.

Trump just couldn't foresee that, right ??
Trump strongly believes in law and order and he has been against riots. All of his previous rallies and protests have been mostly peaceful. The idea that some of his followers would start acting like left wing lunatics probably didn't occur to him.

Trump is brilliant at big picture strategy but he is horrible with tactics. He just couldn't foresee it. The fascists who took over our government outmaneuvered him.
 

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Trump strongly believes in law and order and he has been against riots. All of his previous rallies and protests have been mostly peaceful. The idea that some of his followers would start acting like left wing lunatics probably didn't occur to him.

Trump is brilliant at big picture strategy but he is horrible with tactics. He just couldn't foresee it. The fascists who took over our government outmaneuvered him.
Trump is good at many things but IMO he's terrible at big picture. The big picture here is he's an idiot who can't accept a loss, gloats when he wins, and thinks in the longrun people will forget about it. Truth is most people dislike him and think he's bad for the country. Even the ones voting for him mostly only did so because they were afraid of socialism. The big picture is he sort of helped prepetuate a lie in the US and made the conspiratorial mindset come to light, which we can see now from a few posters who actually believe Corona is made up, and they actually believe the election was stolen.

It's honestly horrible to witness because these people probably just need a little help becoming productive members of society but they've given up on that. I know exactly the mindset browsing the internet all day, thinking Bill Gates is trying to kill us, Tom Hanks is a pedo, believing things Haidut says, thinking every single health problem is about thyroid and endotoxin, thinking starch is evil - etc... I used to be that. It's all horseshit though, and most people only believe it because they're scared and don't know where else to turn.
 

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Trump is good at many things but IMO he's terrible at big picture. The big picture here is he's an idiot who can't accept a loss, gloats when he wins, and thinks in the longrun people will forget about it. Truth is most people dislike him and think he's bad for the country. Even the ones voting for him mostly only did so because they were afraid of socialism. The big picture is he sort of helped prepetuate a lie in the US and made the conspiratorial mindset come to light, which we can see now from a few posters who actually believe Corona is made up, and they actually believe the election was stolen.

It's honestly horrible to witness because these people probably just need a little help becoming productive members of society but they've given up on that. I know exactly the mindset browsing the internet all day, thinking Bill Gates is trying to kill us, Tom Hanks is a pedo, believing things Haidut says, thinking every single health problem is about thyroid and endotoxin, thinking starch is evil - etc... I used to be that. It's all horseshit though, and most people only believe it because they're scared and don't know where else to turn.
This is a caricature of Trump and his followers propagated by the mainstream media. This is not reality.
 

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@DarkKiller You're revealing more about yourself here than you are of anyone else. When you were a conspiracy theorist you were irrational, and now that you're anti-conspiracy theory you are being similarly irrational.
 

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Why didn't TRUMP anticipate his huge manifestation could be taken advantage of by agent provocateurs, and defused it preemptively by making it very clear everywhere in the medias BEFORE THE 6 th JANUARY he wanted a PEACEFUL and NON VIOLENT event ?

Quite convenient that all the evidence about voter fraud couldn't be discussed in Washington and then the press afterwards, drowned in the attention given to the Capitol drama.

Trump just couldn't foresee that, right ??
Trump is controlled opposition. For example the way he responded to the Rona shows this clearly. He is a very convincing actor. His opponents think he's a narcissistic and stupid con man who is obsessed with his image and constantly makes political mistakes. His followers think he is the last bastion of hope against globalism. In effect he has helped advance technocratic control over the people during a crucial time while keeping people obsessed with identity politics and politically irrelevant drama. What happened at the Capitol will be constantly used to discredit nationalism and reinforce the image of right wing terrorism as a growing threat in the USA, despite it having been far less destructive than what happened during BLM "protests" just a few months before.
 

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This is a caricature of Trump and his followers propagated by the mainstream media. This is not reality.
I was for Trump in 2016. It's so clearly a large portion of people. When you have that many people believing Corona is fake and that the election was rigged, there's a problem.

Trump also always gloats and says he's the best about everything, but when he loses he says he's been chaeted. It happens every single time. He always attacks anybody who criticizes him. It's all over twitter not hard to find when he had his account.

On this form, which is tiny, I've seen many who fit the description.

If you're a Trump fan I don't think youre evil but you'd be crazy not to see he's a highly flawed individual who is pretty toxic. He just doesn't respect people or any social norms and makes alot of people feel bad about themselves.
 

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I was for Trump in 2016. It's so clearly a large portion of people. When you have that many people believing Corona is fake and that the election was rigged, there's a problem.

Trump also always gloats and says he's the best about everything, but when he loses he says he's been chaeted. It happens every single time. He always attacks anybody who criticizes him. It's all over twitter not hard to find when he had his account.

On this form, which is tiny, I've seen many who fit the description.

If you're a Trump fan I don't think youre evil but you'd be crazy not to see he's a highly flawed individual who is pretty toxic. He just doesn't respect people or any social norms and makes alot of people feel bad about themselves.
I support Trump and I believe Covid is real.

I do believe the election was stolen by putting several hundred thousand fake votes through the system. Trump pushed over and over for a full forensic audit of every single vote in the swing states and this was blocked by the media, courts, and democrats. If the election wasn't stolen then they could have done the full forensic audit and then rub the results in Trump's face. But the forensic audit was blocked at every turn.

If the election wasn't stolen then a full forensic audit of all the votes in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan would have been great for Biden. He could have held that over Trumps head and made Trump look like an idiot. But blocking the full forensic audit was very suspicious.

Trump does gloat but so what?

Trump attacks high ranking individuals who should be able to take it. But as far as everyday people he very unifying. He has proven himself to be an excellent president of all Americans from all races, all genders, and all sexual orientations.

I believe the media and democrats created false narratives to divide the country. The media/democrats created hate, division, and and seeded violence as part of their strategy to seize power and many people have gotten killed or injured as a result of their power grab. Trump on the other hand has been a unifying presence for all Americans.
 

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I support Trump and I believe Covid is real.

I do believe the election was stolen by putting several hundred thousand fake votes through the system. Trump pushed over and over for a full forensic audit of every single vote in the swing states and this was blocked by the media, courts, and democrats. If the election wasn't stolen then they could have done the full forensic audit and then rub the results in Trump's face. But the forensic audit was blocked at every turn.

If the election wasn't stolen then a full forensic audit of all the votes in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan would have been great for Biden. He could have held that over Trumps head and made Trump look like an idiot. But blocking the full forensic audit was very suspicious.

Trump does gloat but so what?

Trump attacks high ranking individuals who should be able to take it. But as far as everyday people he very unifying. He has proven himself to be an excellent president of all Americans from all races, all genders, and all sexual orientations.

I believe the media and democrats created false narratives to divide the country. The media/democrats created hate, division, and and seeded violence as part of their strategy to seize power and many people have gotten killed or injured as a result of their power grab. Trump on the other hand has been a unifying presence for all Americans.
K so you believe the election was stolen. Several hundred thousand fake votes? Why did the courts not agree with this? Was every single person in on it? And the poll watchers they were just all in on the conspiracy? Trump can push and call for a forensic audit any time he wants doesn't mean it's going to happen, because he constantly lies and you don't get a recount if there is no basis for it. Obviously he was blocked because it's so clearly a bull**** ploy to get his base riled up. How many times does he have to lie to you till you'll realize he's a a liar. Like it's insane to me.

You don't seem to understand as well how much money, and how much time an audit takes. There's several factors that have to be taken into account. The states didn't deserve audits because Biden won, and there was absolutely no proof of election fraud.

You have none. All if you have is Trump's sons and supporters word that voter fraud happened. No proof.

He gloats when he wins, says he the best at stuff he's so clearly not the best at, and then he cries like a little b**** when he loses. Everything he's lost at in life he calls it fraud or a scam. He's scammed so many ******* people out of money with his steaks, to his university. That doesn't matter though right? Lol.

Obviously the democrats have created false narratives. They suck just like the news sucks. So does fox though. All the media cares about is what works for them, and that's keeping people scared so they hang on. It's just like how you hang on to Trump. You think you're woke but you will one day realize right now you're a sheep and many people look at you, the way you look at lefties who believe women can become men. It's the same thing. You just don't realize it because you get away with saying ***t when in reality it's ridiculous. You can believe all the fraud you want but it would take millions of people in on it for it to happen.

How did they get the votes in? When. Who. How did they get away with it. Were all the courts and judges paid off. What about the poll watchers??
 

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Trump attacks high ranking individuals who should be able to take it. But as far as everyday people he very unifying. He has proven himself to be an excellent president of all Americans from all races, all genders, and all sexual orientations.
Yes I'm sure when he insulted multiple countries, calling some of them shitholes, that those people were all very satisfied with Trump. I imagine every well respected person is unified by how he's handled himself on twitter - calling people fat, ugly, stupid, broke, low class, phoney ... on the daily. He's definitely unifying.

It's like upside down world. and I actually supported him, knowing he was really dumb but still liked some of the stuff he was doing.. until 2020. He's gone crazy.
 

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K so you believe the election was stolen. Several hundred thousand fake votes? Why did the courts not agree with this? Was every single person in on it? And the poll watchers they were just all in on the conspiracy? Trump can push and call for a forensic audit any time he wants doesn't mean it's going to happen, because he constantly lies and you don't get a recount if there is no basis for it. Obviously he was blocked because it's so clearly a bull**** ploy to get his base riled up. How many times does he have to lie to you till you'll realize he's a a liar. Like it's insane to me.

You don't seem to understand as well how much money, and how much time an audit takes. There's several factors that have to be taken into account. The states didn't deserve audits because Biden won, and there was absolutely no proof of election fraud.

You have none. All if you have is Trump's sons and supporters word that voter fraud happened. No proof.

He gloats when he wins, says he the best at stuff he's so clearly not the best at, and then he cries like a little b**** when he loses. Everything he's lost at in life he calls it fraud or a scam. He's scammed so many ******* people out of money with his steaks, to his university. That doesn't matter though right? Lol.

Obviously the democrats have created false narratives. They suck just like the news sucks. So does fox though. All the media cares about is what works for them, and that's keeping people scared so they hang on. It's just like how you hang on to Trump. You think you're woke but you will one day realize right now you're a sheep and many people look at you, the way you look at lefties who believe women can become men. It's the same thing. You just don't realize it because you get away with saying ***t when in reality it's ridiculous. You can believe all the fraud you want but it would take millions of people in on it for it to happen.

How did they get the votes in? When. Who. How did they get away with it. Were all the courts and judges paid off. What about the poll watchers??

I don't feel like getting into this again but if you are interested, feel free to view all my postings in the following thread to see why I believe the election was stolen. If there is a specific point I made that you disagree with feel free to call out the specific point and tell me why I'm wrong.

This thread is about how Trump was blindsided by the horrible riots that happened in the capital building the other day. So better to stick to that on this thread. I hope they put every individual that committed an act of violence, damaged any property, or threw any objects in jail for a long time. Trump is the law and order president and the rioters are not reflective of the typical Trump supporter.
 

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I don't feel like getting into this again but if you are interested, feel free to view all my postings in this thread to see why I believe the election was stolen. If there is a specific point I made that you disagree with feel free to call out the specific point and tell me why I'm wrong.

This thread is about how Trump was blindsided by the horrible riots that happened in the capital building the other day. So better to stick to that on this thread. I hope they put every individual that committed an act of violence, damaged any property, or threw any objects in jail for a long time. Trump is the law and order president and the rioters are not reflective of the typical Trump supporter.
See this is what people do when they don't want to face reality. Sooner or later it's going to hit you on the head. Until then you can keep ignoring it.

Trump's done some good things but the overall picture of his presidency is terrible. He only governed for the people that liked him. As a president you need to put your ego aside and try to make the country come together. The country could not be further apart, and alot of that is due to Trump's rhetoric alone.
 

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See this is what people do when they don't want to face reality. Sooner or later it's going to hit you on the head. Until then you can keep ignoring it.
Who said anything about not facing reality?

Biden will be president on January 20th. Doesn't matter that the election was stolen because, as the supreme court ruled in the Texas case, each state has the right to conduct elections as they see fit. That includes election fraud. This supreme court ruling sets the precedent that if election fraud occurs in an individual state then that state itself has to deal with the fraud.
 

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Who said anything about not facing reality?

Biden will be president on January 20th. Doesn't matter that the election was stolen because, as the supreme court ruled in the Texas case, each state has the right to conduct elections as they see fit. That includes election fraud. This supreme court ruling sets the precedent that if election fraud occurs in an individual state then that state has to deal with the fraud.
You're not facing reality. I'm the one that said something about facing reality.

You're so offbase with your election fraud and supreme court comments too it's baffling. You have absolutely no understanding of constitutional law.
 

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You're not facing reality. I'm the one that said something about facing reality.

You're so ******* offbase with your election fraud and supreme court comments too it's ******* baffling. You have absolutely no understanding of constitutional law.
OK. So break apart my statement and tell me specifically what is off base?
 

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That's what standing means legally. Here is the legal definition of standing.

Texas and by extension any other state cannot sue another state to correct election fraud. From that I infer that it is each individual state's responsibility to deal with election fraud. That is my interpretation of the ruling.

Feel free to share your interpretation of the ruling.
 

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One more point I want to make is that I posted the Supreme Court ruling in the context of accepting reality. I knew Trump had lost the election when that ruling came out. Trump would never get his day in court to share his evidence with the American people after that.
 
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