Why can't I tolerate sugar on benzos? (It gives me severe physical anxiety)

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Hello all, I'm feeling so sad, I can't enjoy a nice dessert with sugar in it or any sweet beverages because the sugar gives me severe physical anxiety that remains for one and a half day atleast. Why is this and what can I do about it? I'm on 23 mg of valium.

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Can you eat starch and protein without problems?
 

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You may be low in thiamine. Eating a little sugar will make you feel worse if you are low thiamine. Thiamine deficiency could be the root of why you feel the need for the valium.
 

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You may be low in thiamine. Eating a little sugar will make you feel worse if you are low thiamine. Thiamine deficiency could be the root of why you feel the need for the valium.
I'm dependent on the Valium for over a year now. I started with 3 mg of Ativan and crossed over. I can't cold turkey the valium that would cause brain damage and severe physical anxiety for months or years.

I tried thiamine once and it gave me such severe physical anxiety I had to updose my benzos.
 

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I'm dependent on the Valium for over a year now. I started with 3 mg of Ativan and crossed over. I can't cold turkey the valium that would cause brain damage and severe physical anxiety for months or years.

I tried thiamine once and it gave me such severe physical anxiety I had to updose my benzos.
Which type of thiamine did you try? Do you remember the dose?
 

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No I didn't.
If you are deficient in magnesium, the thiamine will make you feel bad because it uses magnesium to do some of the things it does. Likewise with the potassium. Supplementing potassium is tricky; it's easier/safer to simply drink orange juice for its potassium. Larger doses of thiamine will also lower your blood sugar. When I started taking larger doses of thiamine, several times I felt pretty awful, but drinking a glass of orange juice with a little magnesium in it made me feel much better/normal within 30 minutes or so. I think my biggest issue is getting low blood sugar. It just slams me. Orange juice is what I use to get my blood sugar back up.

I think all of these bad feelings (from low magnesium or low potassium or low blood sugar) can be interpreted as anxiety. If you don't understand what is happening in your body it can be pretty scary and incapacitating. There have been a few times when I was so fatigued I didn't think I could make it back inside my house. I'm much better now that I've stair-stepped up to my maintenance dose of thiamine hcl and am not taking increased doses every few days. Things have smoothed out. I'm doing very well now, for the most part. I still wish my stamina was better. Maybe that will come.

Here's a video for you:


Elliot goes into more things than I just did (above). I forgot about the b-complex that I also added.
 
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If you are deficient in magnesium, the thiamine will make you feel bad because it uses magnesium to do some of the things it does. Likewise with the potassium. Supplementing potassium is tricky; it's easier/safer to simply drink orange juice for its potassium. Larger doses of thiamine will also lower your blood sugar. When I started taking larger doses of thiamine, several times I felt pretty awful, but drinking a glass of orange juice with a little magnesium in it made me feel much better/normal within 30 minutes or so. I think my biggest issue is getting low blood sugar. It just slams me. Orange juice is what I use to get my blood sugar back up.

I think all of these bad feelings (from low magnesium or low potassium or low blood sugar) can be interpreted as anxiety. If you don't understand what is happening in your body it can be pretty scary and incapacitating. There have been a few times when I was so fatigued I didn't think I could make it back inside my house. I'm much better now that I've stair-stepped up to my maintenance dose of thiamine hcl and am not taking increased doses every few days. Things have smoothed out. I'm doing very well now, for the most part. I still wish my stamina was better. Maybe that will come.

Here's a video for you:


Elliot goes into more things than I just did (above). I forgot about the b-complex that I also added.
Thank you, but I can't tolerate OJ I'm pretty sure due to the sugar content. Are you sure vitamin B1 will get rid of the sugar intolerance? Someone else on here once said something about it being the immune system. I'll try to see if I can find that quote.
 

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Have you tested you blood sugar fasted and then that value is after eating?
You can also test it after eating the sugar that gives you anxiety, someone beside you can do it not necessarily you.
 

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Thank you, but I can't tolerate OJ I'm pretty sure due to the sugar content. Are you sure vitamin B1 will get rid of the sugar intolerance? Someone else on here once said something about it being the immune system. I'll try to see if I can find that quote.
I don't know what's going on with your body; I just know what I've experienced personally with thiamine blockage due to Bactrim antibiotic (see this article: Bactrim: An Anti-Folate, Anti-Thiamine, Potassium Altering Drug - Hormones Matter ), my horrible reaction to eating sugar during this time, and my success with recovering my ability to use sugar for fuel again by supplementing with thiamine. There are excellent videos on this youtube channel about how thiamine works: https://www.youtube.com/c/EONutrition/videos Elliot has done a lot of power point tutorials about how thiamine works in your body and why it is important. These are well worth the time to watch if you don't know what thiamine does.

Start with this one:

In addition, Dr. Chandler Marrs' video is very helpful:
 

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Hello all, I'm feeling so sad, I can't enjoy a nice dessert with sugar in it or any sweet beverages because the sugar gives me severe physical anxiety that remains for one and a half day atleast. Why is this and what can I do about it? I'm on 23 mg of valium.

Thank you

Maybe start by blocking the serotonin causing the anxiety, so you can deal with the underlying metabolic issues: Blocking serotonin, adrenaline treats anxiety, brain damage due to alcohol “addiction” – To Extract Knowledge from Matter
 
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