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Note the modifiers 'very often' and 'many.'So, people that eat any form of animal protein are either fat or stupid?
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Note the modifiers 'very often' and 'many.'So, people that eat any form of animal protein are either fat or stupid?
Note the modifiers 'very often' and 'many.'
People who eat grains often have less tryptophan in their bodies because of the induction of tryptophan diooxygenase, and millions of non‐vegans eat grains; cortisol is also a huge factor in size. When I went to high school, there were scores of scrawny people and I am willing to bet that none of them were vegan.
I find that most people who eat meat are kinda chubby. I don't mean to offend, but it's true. Sometimes chubby people like to act like they're strong, or that 'it's muscle,' but it's very often mostly just fat. You never can make a valid comparison between two people with the same amount of body fat, and nobody should be comparing endurance athletes to bodybuilders.
I also notice that many people who eat dairy have acne.
You must have a pretty small sample size if those are your observations.
This is America; most people are actually overweight and most people eat meat. Why would you even question that observation?You must have a pretty small sample size if those are your observations.
Question is if laetrile/B17 passes the brain blood barrier, though, if anyone else with knowledge could elaborate about its usefulness in this particular case of brain cancer. Perhaps it would be more useful in the case of metastasis. But I don't know, someone with knowledge about it should comment on it.
burtlan, with so many alternatives that you often provide, how would you prioritize them?It does with the help of DMSO (Harold Manner cocktail)
"Q - As you've said, you really have no control over these factors.
Dr. M - That's right, but there are a few things over which we do have control. These are the things we have improved. In the first place, many of the materials we use, like laetrile, metabolize or go through their chemical reactions in a matter of minutes. If, for example, the laetrile is given at 9 a.m. it will be completely finished with its therapeutic action in approximately half an hour. For this reason, we felt that if it was administered slowly, over a two to three hour period, the laetrile and any other material would be more effective. Every patient at the clinic, regardless of their disease gets some of their medications with this slow drip technique.
Q - And what was the second improvement?
Dr. M - The second thing that concerned me was the fact that our medications had to pass through biological membranes in order to reach their target organs.
Q - What do you mean by "biological membranes"?
Dr. M-Any of the living tissues through which our medications must pass. Examples are the walls of the blood vessels, the outside of the cells, the linings of body cavities and in the case of brain tumors, the anterior and posterior choroid plexi, known also as the blood-brain barrier.
Q - How could you improve the movement of the medications through these membranes?
Dr. M- We were lucky to have been exposed to a wonderful substance called dimethylsulfoxide. This is also known as DMSO. Dr. Stanley Jacobs sent some
of this to me when I was at Loyola University in Chicago. I knew it was a biological solvent but I didn't really know how effective it was until I tried some on a few of my graduate students.
Q- What did you do to them?
Dr. M - I painted a little on the back of their hand. In 15 seconds, the students could taste it in their mouth. I asked them to trace the pathway of this chemical from the back of their hand to the taste buds in their mouth. When they did, they were as amazed as I was. It must go through the skin and connective tissues, into the veins, to the heart, pumped up to the lungs, back to the heart and then up through the various arteries that supply the taste buds. It did all this in only 15 seconds.
Q - I don't see what that has to do with metabolic therapy.
Dr. M -It was the answer we had been looking for. If I could add DMSO to the infusion mixture, all of the materials would get into all parts of the body more quickly than they ever did before. In addition, for the first time we could penetrate that important blood brain barrier. This is undoubtedly why we are having so much success with brain tumors."
Harold Manner made national news in 1984 when he cured a 4 year old boy of inoperable brain stem tumor.
Here's a first account by Frank Cousineau:
"Let me give you more proof that these little-known clinics near San Diego can cure deadly cancers that stump conventional doctors.
One case was so spectacular it caused a media sensation. In 1983, a Pittsburgh toddler named Jeremy Snyder became desperately ill with cancer. The doctors gave his parents the heartbreaking news: Jeremy had a brain stem tumor that was inoperable because of the high risk of bleeding.
The doctors said little Jeremy was "terminal." His case was hopeless. The doctors gave him no more than six months to live.
If Jeremy's parents had listened to those conventional doctors, Jeremy would be dead right now. But his parents heard about one of the little-known clinics near San Diego that offer natural treatments. So they brought little Jeremy to a young doctor at one of the clinics.
The doctor told them there was hope. He cured Jeremy's cancer without any surgery, chemo, or radiation.
Believe it or not, the doctor used three natural treatments only — the same treatments the Amish seek when they get cancer. One of these treatments was DMSO, which the doctor administered through an IV drip. I reveal the other two natural treatments in my new Special Report The Amish Cancer Secret: How to cure just about any cancer the Amish way.
Today Jeremy is alive and well. He's graduated from college, and he's married."
A second account of this cure from an 1987 LA TIMES article critical of alternative therapies:
"For example, Harold Manner, operator of the Manner Clinic in Tijuana, was honored in a parade in Belle Vernon, Pa., in 1984 after being credited with healing little Jeremy Snyder who, according to his mother, Cindy Snyder, had been comatose with a brain tumor when he entered the clinic in 1983 at the age of 4.
Cindy Snyder is convinced that Jeremy was healed by the Manner Clinic, with its "Manner Cocktail"--intravenous Laetrile, DMSO and vitamins--along with other treatments."
But Dr. Thomas Lyons, a Pittsburgh neurosurgeon involved in Jeremy's diagnosis, credits the boy's apparent recovery to radiation treatments before his trip to the clinic."
burtlan, with so many alternatives that you often provide, how would you prioritize them?
Your post along with every response in this thread brought tears to my eyes. I was instantly reminded that I am swimming in the healing waters of a supportive community of darling beings of whom I might never meet in person, but whom I hold dear in my heart and look forward each and every day to reading about their ideas, thoughts, tribal wisdom, research, etc. Even when life gets “busy”, I feel inspired by each of you to come and read and learn.Dear Lisa,
Firstly, I am so sorry for your friend that he has been diagnosed with something many find most frightening. I also feel for you as his friend, such things can be a shock, not least in reminding us all of our own mortality.
I have a few thoughts if I may, for what they are worth, as each person's presentation is always different and multi-faceted.
It sounds as if there are some 'kind' chemotherapies that may be useful to review and some adaptive changes that might bear fruit also. Thank you, dear Mr Burtlancast for your perennial research and reportage of these. Some of these chemicals have particular side effects of their own, adding to, or promoting the 'anaemia of chronic disease' comes to mind, and these 'actions' should be fully understood so that 'remedies' are not used to 'combat' them inappropriately. Dr Peat's work on all of this has been seminal for me. Dr Koch's focus on latent pathogens and their toxins equally so, again for me. Sometimes the body will wholly resist increased metabolism @yerrag because it knows the consequences, at that time, would not be helpful. Sometimes removal of a septic foci and all that goes with that, allows the body to deal with the seemingly more critical presentation, or what we tend to focus on (sometimes with good reason, sometimes not) in this case 'The Cancer'. I have learned not to underestimate the power of a slow poisoning on whole of body capability and response; nor the power of marketing of diseases and manipulation of perceptions thereupon and thus 'the person needs to do something quickly and like NOW'. Absolute, acute trauma aside, rushing anything rarely generates the optimal result.
I try to remember to First Add No Stress, for whatever the presentation, trivial or life threatening, it is about the person and not me and my current understandings. So indeed, with cancer, they may just wish to 'get it out'. There are usually a myriad of (free) suggestions (just like this post! eek!) for the person affected and that can be overwhelming, particularly if they are facing serious vulnerability for the first time and these suggestions can come with subtle or overt emotional pressure. The tendency is often to go with the majority to 'fix it', and there is likely to be pressure from many quarters to do so. With brain conditions, support of those around may not only be nice to have, it can be a 'must have' for practical considerations.
If this is an incidental finding, with no pressing symptoms, then taking more time to review options seems very prudent. However, understanding where the person is, and the ways they would prefer to go, tends to generate less stress for them, and anecdotally better outcomes, even if we believe we can see a freight train coming from such choices, and they go on to die anyway, as do we all. I have no idea what a lab rat with induced cancer is thinking, but I suspect the thoughts of humans with Cancer are more complicated. Choices that are seemingly illogical to us, often have absolute meaning for the person involved.
I fully appreciate that I am not telling you anything that you do not already know and this is merely to log my experiential findings, not to lecture in any way. If anything it is merely to say, it's up to that person. Your generous and loving nature and your clear ability to listen and to assist someone else with clarity at a difficult time, may be really what your friend needs most now and going forward. None of the options with this presentation, alternative or mainstream, are for the faint-hearted. If there are pressing symptoms, and no financial constraints, surgery may be suggested, and at that point one is most likely looking at poly-pharmacy afterwards with which 'kind' chemotherapy may conflict. What to trust? First do no harm.
In which case, food perhaps becomes the primary focus to assist repair/recovery. Dr Koch for example, never said his remedies would work without changes to diet and lifestyle that may last many years - "to season the cure". But food is not as sexy as kind chemotherapies, so can be overlooked, especially when 'chasing a cure'. There are many discussions here on what foods might be best but if the body is going to be asked to dissolve a tumour, one would hope the liver was supported and the bowel was clean and clear, digestion as good as possible, and the person works to understand what does and not work for them in this regard. I have found that people usually 'know' what works for them, they either don't know they know, or have no faith in their knowing.
It would seem all disease is a whole of body issue. The use of possibly vital anti-oedema medications like dexamethasone for brain swelling will have huge impacts on the 'rest of the body', even though brain swelling without it might kill/impair them sooner, so paying attention to how that impacts food requirements and cravings is merely one example of a step by step First Add No Stress approach. And of course a weather eye to how steroids impact immunity (particularly if a latent infection is suspected) might also be wise.
Whatever the route chosen, your friend will likely need support especially if the brain is affected by mainstream intervention or other choices - where the ability to ask questions, understand answers, make choices, resist pressure, eat regularly, follow 'protocols', perform the simplest of tasks, may be diminished, temporarily or longer term. I have found it is best to start as one means to go on. Simply. One step at a time to see how the person responds, and all steps in succession. With the best will in the world, what they choose remains up to them.
Whatever the journey and outcome, I wish you both the very best,
Sincerely,
Sheila
You are a very kind person, Lisa. Your friend is lucky to have you.Your post along with every response in this thread brought tears to my eyes. I was instantly reminded that I am swimming in the healing waters of a supportive community of darling beings of whom I might never meet in person, but whom I hold dear in my heart and look forward each and every day to reading about their ideas, thoughts, tribal wisdom, research, etc. Even when life gets “busy”, I feel inspired by each of you to come and read and learn.
@Sheila your posts have pointed me in many amazing directions.
Bless each and everyone who took the time to support my learning:
@Dhair @Tenacity @aquaman @Travis @Tarmander @lampofred
@burtlancast @Sheila @yerrag @LeeLemonoil @bzmazu @Rafe @RichardDobson @Amazoniac