When Will The World Go Full Peat?

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I think things have come along nicely in the last few years.

Take for example the following 13 points from a letter of Canadian MDs to the Canadian government.

Only point 5 and 12 would differ from RP.

Can the American health care industry suppress the truth for so much longer??

The Canadian Dietary Guidelines should:
1. Clearly communicate to the public and health-care professionals that the low-fat diet is no longer supported, and can worsen heart-disease risk factors (5,6,7,8,22,24,27,31).
2. Be created without influence from the food industry (4).
3. Eliminate caps on saturated fats (8,20,22).
4. Be nutritionally sufficient, and those nutrients should come from real foods, not from artificially fortified refined grains (9).
5. Promote low-carb diets as at least one safe and effective intervention for people struggling with obesity, diabetes, and heart disease (10,11,13,21,27).
6. Offer a true range of diets that respond to the diverse nutritional needs of our population (12).
7. De-emphasize the role of aerobic exercise in controlling weight (14,32).
8. Recognize the controversy on salt and cease the blanket "lower is better” recommendation (15,16,26).
9. Stop using any language suggesting that sustainable weight control can simply be managed by creating a caloric deficit (14,21,27,28,29,30). 1
10.Cease its advice to replace saturated fats with polyunsaturated vegetable oils to prevent cardiovascular disease (17,18,19,20).
11.Stop steering people away from nutritious whole foods, such as whole-fat dairy and regular red meat (18).
12.Include a cap on added sugar, in accordance with the updated WHO guidelines, ideally no greater than 5% of total calories (25).
13.Be based on a complete, comprehensive review of the most rigorous (randomized, controlled clinical trial) data available; on subjects for which this more rigorous data is not available, the Guidelines should remain silent.

http://www.foodmed.net/2016/canada.pdf
 

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Really says a lot about Canada being not set up to let corporate lobbyists undue influence to an extent that it becomes harmful to the public at large. I think point 1, though, is not quite in line with Ray Peat's thinking.
 

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What I don't understand is why so many Canadians despise Trump even as he sets about undoing the toxic influence of lobbyists that are always detrimental to the public's interests. If the US is so corrupt and Canada isn't, shouldn't Canadians commiserate with their Southern neighbor and help bring about good governance in government?
 

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True history will begin when Man's playing being becomes the indisputable source of his own life. In the beginning there was play.
 

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Not quite a Peaty revolution here. That will happen when science develops a coherent view of the organism. (Thanks Blossom I love that phrase)
 

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I don't think the world will ever go full Peat. I believe most of what he says and I still don't implement half of his regulations - I enjoy pizza and m&ms and other pufa laden foods too much (though I try to avoid them most of the time)

What I don't understand is why so many Canadians despise Trump even as he sets about undoing the toxic influence of lobbyists that are always detrimental to the public's interests. If the US is so corrupt and Canada isn't, shouldn't Canadians commiserate with their Southern neighbor and help bring about good governance in government?

My guess would be because most Canadians are better educated and can recognise a conman of the Berlusconi/Putin/Erdogan ilk. Canada is a socialist country and wants to stay that way.
 

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Even Asprey has said fish oil can be harmful and vegetable oil is the worst thing for you in a podcast a few weeks ago

Also, David Wolfe has begun quoting him if you watch his videos about hormones on youtube

I think his ideas are catching on
 
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Also, David Wolfe has begun quoting him if you watch his videos about hormones on youtube
Really?!?! I was wondering when that would happen. Ray Peat is simply light years ahead of David Wolfe. Surprised that Wolfe would see it and start studying Peat. He needs to...
 
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Even Asprey has said fish oil can be harmful and vegetable oil is the worst thing for you in a podcast a few weeks ago

Also, David Wolfe has begun quoting him if you watch his videos about hormones on youtube

I think his ideas are catching on

Asspray is very well aware of Peat now, he talks about him from time to time on the comments to his videos. But he can't just reverse a lot of his Bulletproof lifestyle with its product line .
 
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The Paleo community is beginning to dump fish oil. Their concern (allegedly) is principally different from Peat's though. They're realizing all fish oil supps are rancid. But still seem to recommend fresh sources of O-3 oils like Salmon.
 

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What I don't understand is why so many Canadians despise Trump even as he sets about undoing the toxic influence of lobbyists that are always detrimental to the public's interests. If the US is so corrupt and Canada isn't, shouldn't Canadians commiserate with their Southern neighbor and help bring about good governance in government?

Are you serious? What of Trump's actions so far could even remotely be considered a step towards reducing establishment corruption? The only good thing in my opinion he's doing is making it harder to get abortions, which is still an action I'm sure Canadians despise.
 

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Are you serious? What of Trump's actions so far could even remotely be considered a step towards reducing establishment corruption? The only good thing in my opinion he's doing is making it harder to get abortions, which is still an action I'm sure Canadians despise.
First off, he isn't in the running for a Nobel Peace Prize. Secondly, his right hand knows what his left hand is doing. Thirdly, except for libtards, Americans are sick of politicians that pervert good intentions into narratives that candy wrap embezzlement schemes.
 

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True history will begin when Man's playing being becomes the indisputable source of his own life. In the beginning there was play.
This is a great statement.

I'm just realizing, the image you use in your avatar... I have often thought of myself as striving to be truly pure of heart, wondering if and when the flying nimbus would support me. Is this why you chose that image?
 

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First off, he isn't in the running for a Nobel Peace Prize. Secondly, his right hand knows what his left hand is doing. Thirdly, except for libtards, Americans are sick of politicians that pervert good intentions into narratives that candy wrap embezzlement schemes.

I don't want to get into a politics discussion because doing so invariably causes tempers to start getting high. But every action he has taken and every nominee he has appointed so far except for General Mattis and maybe Rex Tillerson has shown that Trump is just like every other politician that people are sick of. Everything he has done so far is making corruption worse, not better. Also, you didn't respond to my original comment at all. You didn't name a single thing he's done that would even come close to helping reduce corruption, which was the fundamental premise of his campaign. Instead, you called people "libtards." Donald Trump is just another liar with no regard for anyone or anything but himself and his bank account.
 

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