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A good Book that has a lot to do with the Problems we face and which is for free,
is "The Authoritarians",by a Professor of Psychology,Bob Altemeyer.he describes the lethal Union
between authoritarian followers and Dominating Leaders without conscience.its free on his website.
i recommend it.
 

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A good Book that has a lot to do with the Problems we face and which is for free,
is "The Authoritarians",by a Professor of Psychology,Bob Altemeyer.he describes the lethal Union
between authoritarian followers and Dominating Leaders without conscience.its free on his website.
i recommend it.
Biggest societal issue is a culture of narcissism.
 
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yes.narcissists are bad,but SDO are Worse:
there are guys who,even if they could,even if material-resources werent scarce,would engage in maiming you.

Dominance Sub-Scale
  1. Some groups of people must be kept in their place.
  2. It's probably a good thing that certain groups are at the top and other groups are at the bottom.
  3. An ideal society requires some groups to be on top and others to be on the bottom.
  4. Some groups of people are simply inferior to other groups.
  5. Groups at the bottom are just as deserving as groups at the top. (reverse-scored)
  6. No one group should dominate in society. (reverse-scored)
  7. Groups at the bottom should not have to stay in their place. (reverse-scored)
  8. Group dominance is a poor principle. (reverse-scored)
Anti-Egalitarianism Sub-Scale
  1. We should not push for group equality.
  2. We shouldn't try to guarantee that every group has the same quality of life.
  3. It is unjust to try to make groups equal.
  4. Group equality should not be our primary goal.
  5. We should work to give all groups an equal chance to succeed. (reverse-scored)
  6. We should do what we can to equalize conditions for different groups. (reverse-scored)
  7. No matter how much effort it takes, we ought to strive to ensure that all groups have the same chance in life. (reverse-scored)
  8. Group equality should be our ideal. (reverse-scored)
SDO-16 items[1]
  1. Some groups of people are simply inferior to other groups.
  2. In getting what you want, it is sometimes necessary to use force against other groups.
  3. It's OK if some groups have more of a chance in life than others.
  4. To get ahead in life, it is sometimes necessary to step on other groups.
  5. If certain groups stayed in their place, we would have fewer problems.
  6. It's probably a good thing that certain groups are at the top and other groups are at the bottom.
  7. Inferior groups should stay in their place.
  8. Sometimes other groups must be kept in their place.
  9. It would be good if groups could be equal. (reverse-scored)
  10. Group equality should be our ideal. (reverse-scored)
  11. All groups should be given an equal chance in life. (reverse-scored)
  12. We should do what we can to equalize conditions for different groups. (reverse-scored)
  13. Increased social equality is beneficial to society. (reverse-scored)
  14. We would have fewer problems if we treated people more equally. (reverse-scored)
  15. We should strive to make incomes as equal as possible. (reverse-scored)
  16. No group should dominate in society. (reverse-scored)
 

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yes.narcissists are bad,but SDO are Worse:
there are guys who,even if they could,even if material-resources werent scarce,would engage in maiming you.

Dominance Sub-Scale
  1. Some groups of people must be kept in their place.
  2. It's probably a good thing that certain groups are at the top and other groups are at the bottom.
  3. An ideal society requires some groups to be on top and others to be on the bottom.
  4. Some groups of people are simply inferior to other groups.
  5. Groups at the bottom are just as deserving as groups at the top. (reverse-scored)
  6. No one group should dominate in society. (reverse-scored)
  7. Groups at the bottom should not have to stay in their place. (reverse-scored)
  8. Group dominance is a poor principle. (reverse-scored)
Anti-Egalitarianism Sub-Scale
  1. We should not push for group equality.
  2. We shouldn't try to guarantee that every group has the same quality of life.
  3. It is unjust to try to make groups equal.
  4. Group equality should not be our primary goal.
  5. We should work to give all groups an equal chance to succeed. (reverse-scored)
  6. We should do what we can to equalize conditions for different groups. (reverse-scored)
  7. No matter how much effort it takes, we ought to strive to ensure that all groups have the same chance in life. (reverse-scored)
  8. Group equality should be our ideal. (reverse-scored)
SDO-16 items[1]
  1. Some groups of people are simply inferior to other groups.
  2. In getting what you want, it is sometimes necessary to use force against other groups.
  3. It's OK if some groups have more of a chance in life than others.
  4. To get ahead in life, it is sometimes necessary to step on other groups.
  5. If certain groups stayed in their place, we would have fewer problems.
  6. It's probably a good thing that certain groups are at the top and other groups are at the bottom.
  7. Inferior groups should stay in their place.
  8. Sometimes other groups must be kept in their place.
  9. It would be good if groups could be equal. (reverse-scored)
  10. Group equality should be our ideal. (reverse-scored)
  11. All groups should be given an equal chance in life. (reverse-scored)
  12. We should do what we can to equalize conditions for different groups. (reverse-scored)
  13. Increased social equality is beneficial to society. (reverse-scored)
  14. We would have fewer problems if we treated people more equally. (reverse-scored)
  15. We should strive to make incomes as equal as possible. (reverse-scored)
  16. No group should dominate in society. (reverse-scored)
Obvious political motivations are obvious. The entire thing looks flimsy on first glance.
 
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yes.its almost unbelievable,isnt it.
but we know it from them,they are the ones agreeing on it.
you can say that this just refelcts verbal behavior,someone who knows his bad tendencies.
but you can let them play.and they are troublemakers through and through.
 

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yes.its almost unbelievable,isnt it.
but we know it from them,they are the ones agreeing on it.
you can say that this just refelcts verbal behavior,someone who knows his bad tendencies.
but you can let them play.and they are troublemakers through and through.
Agreeing on what exactly? It reflects mindset, as words have meanings that are clear.
 

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yes.its almost unbelievable,isnt it.
but we know it from them,they are the ones agreeing on it.
you can say that this just refelcts verbal behavior,someone who knows his bad tendencies.
but you can let them play.and they are troublemakers through and through.
At first glance it stinks of political partisanship, out grouping (ironically) and his own in group bias. How is it scored? Do you not think that violent rape gangs should be kept at the bottom of society? Does that score poorly on this test because I'm being "authoritarian"?
 

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"Some groups of people are simply inferior to other groups."
This, for example, stinks of idealistic progressivism, which is tied to the belief that human beings are a blank slate at the moment of their birth. Is it not self evident that some people are better than others? Hierarchies exist in nature.
 
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Agreeing on what exactly? It reflects mindset, as words have meanings that are clear.


yes,it is fairly clearly worded.agreeing with the prospect and notion of curtailing the wellbeing of fellow citizens,these are the
consequences of the hypothetical societal outcomes,(e.g.We shouldn't try to guarantee that every group has the same quality of life.";shouldnt even try,really?) "if they get the chance.
 

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yes,it is fairly clearly worded.agreeing with the prospect and notion of curtailing the wellbeing of fellow citizens,these are the
consequences of the hypothetical societal outcomes,(e.g.We shouldn't try to guarantee that every group has the same quality of life.";shouldnt even try,really?) "if they get the chance.
Why should we try? That isn't equality of opportunity. No one should be actively oppressed, but to elevate one group above another through artificial mechanisms is inherently biased.
 
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At first glance it stinks of political partisanship, out grouping (ironically) and his own in group bias. How is it scored? Do you not think that violent rape gangs should be kept at the bottom of society? Does that score poorly on this test because I'm being "authoritarian"?


yes,i think they should be held in low regard.Hierachies can be useful,if they arent phony.
SDO Hierachy is phony though,an illusion,because there is no willingness of reciprocity.fair trial
and judgement for all for everyone,but not them.
 

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"no willingness of reciprocity.fair trial
and judgement for all for everyone,but not them."
Just sounds like narcissism.
 
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"Some groups of people are simply inferior to other groups."
This, for example, stinks of idealistic progressivism, which is tied to the belief that human beings are a blank slate at the moment of their birth. Is it not self evident that some people are better than others? Hierarchies exist in nature.

For Fun:
Consider i produce a selfrighteous Hierachy of Phony Quality with these traits:
Necessity to Obey commands that are serving the author of said hierarchy,and only him.commands are reducing mental health and capability to orient of such used people.
inducing by means of diet-control slight mental retardation in all newborns,
with the goal of curtailing competition before it starts,so that the authors average children
have a headstart that isnt correctable because of said induced retardation.
should the author of such hierachy be allowed to do so if he can?
he can write acts and laws and such,but is elected,never saying what his concealed objectives(see above) truly are.

this could be a natural Hierachy,of parasite-type traits.
do you believe such people exist,and what should be done about it,if anything at all?
 

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For Fun:
Consider i produce a selfrighteous Hierachy of Phony Quality with these traits:
Necessity to Obey commands that are serving the author of said hierarchy,and only him.commands are reducing mental health and capability to orient of such used people.
inducing by means of diet-control slight mental retardation in all newborns,
with the goal of curtailing competition before it starts,so that the authors average children
have a headstart that isnt correctable because of said induced retardation.
should the author of such hierachy be allowed to do so if he can?
he can write acts and laws and such,but is elected,never saying what his concealed objectives(see above) truly are.

this could be a natural Hierachy,of parasite-type traits.
do you believe such people exist,and what should be done about it,if anything at all?
Are you subtly trying to describe somewhere in the middle east?
 
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