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What works for premature ejaculation?

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Also, something to do with pelvic floor muscles. If they get to tight, magnesium can help.
 

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I use a lidocaine spray on the tip of penis on occasion and that helps to buy you extra minutes. It’s hit or miss with dosing that and timing that though.
 

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Also, try doing kegel techniques for proper tone and strength of those pelvic floor muscles. This has given results in the past for me.
 

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I use a lidocaine spray on the tip of penis on occasion and that helps to buy you extra minutes. It’s hit or miss with dosing that and timing that though.

mate theres no serious symptoms putting on the balls but I put a drop of keto dht inside the weener hole and it stang like crazy for several minutes and i had burning painful urination for that day and the next.
 

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I have finally undeerstood the idea. So basically buildings, even if you have your feet naked touching the floor, you are not grounded so the matt, mouse pad etc must be connected to the socket that then this socket goes into the ground. Well, you have explained that you have to use a voltmeter to see which socket is grounded. But scared to get an electric shock since since I was a kid I was always told to not stick anything into these sockets. So the idea to plug a matt on the electricity socket and sleep on it is scary. How does the socket know that it doesn't need to send electricity to the matt and instead have 0 volts? (ground). Because as far as I know, visually you can't know if a socket is grounded or not. And a socket that is grounded is also used as a regular socket to plug in stuff? because as far as I know all sockets on my flat are usable sockets where you plug stuff and there is electricity on there.

Do you have a youtube tutorial to show exactly how to do this without getting electrocuted? I mean to measure it and see if its grounded.

Also, assuming a socket can be grounded and also be usable to plug stuff at the same time, what happens exactly when it comes to pluging grounded procuts? like the matt or a mousepad. I mean, it's just weird for me to plug a matt in the same socket that I would be using to charge my phone. How does the matt know to not ignite the mat due electric shock or something? what if there is an error in the matt or something and the matt gets 220volts while im sleeping? I need to know what's going on otherwise this makes me worried. I don't know if it makes sense to ask this, but I just expect 220volts from an electricity socket in Europe, and never imagined I would be pluging a matt to sleep on there.

Finally: What if there are no grounded sockets on my appartment?
Yup that's it. I don't have a youtube channel or anythig I just use it and take an interest but yes you got it right.
About the socket that is understandable. It is only a fear though, not an electrical possibility. I am not an electrician but I understand the basics and more importantly this can be confirmed by any electrician so no worries: the earthing pin in a socket is not electric. If all sockets have an earthing pin where you live, then yes all you can do is use a volt-meter to find out if it's working. BUT and here is the thing - the earth pin does not carry an electrical charge. It is plain and simple a metal rod in the earth with a wire from it that ends up in your socket beside the electrical ones. So there is no possibility of getting a charge from it. And even if there should be a short-circuit or something which is why the pin is there at all, it cannot transfer electricity to you even if you are connected to it. The earthing pin in the socket leads any shortcircuit down into the earth, not upwards. If they could do that there would be no point in having them :). But I didnt know this myself before starting this. SO basically it is not physically possible to get an electrical jolt from your ground pin.

Also (though this probably doesnt assure you but for what it's worth - I got 120v jolts all the time as a kid and at the electrician schools here in norway the pupils jolt each other for fun- complete stupidity but just to assure you that even if you jam a screwdriver into the main socket, you will probably get a bad jolt, not die, but dont do this as it is not good for the body) you are safe when using a voltmeter. Even if you mess up completely and put the voltmeter on the electrical current instead of the groundpin, all that would happen is that you get a good volt-reading. The meter is made for this and does not shock the user. You can have the black plug of the meter on the electricity, and the red in your hand an nothing will happen.

This might sound complicated, but its not. Just trying to tell in a simple but thorough way how not to be afraid of it. The alternative to using the ground pin from the socket is to have a metal rod in the ground and a wire from that one instead. Which is exactly the same as what's in the socket except that the wire doesnt come out of your wall but in your window or whatever.

If you are so unlucky to live high up in a building, that is not made of concrete, and has no grounded sockets then you can use the waterpipe as long as it's metal. Then the waterpipe functions as a very thick wire (with water in the middle lol) that goes into the ground. So you have a lot of options. Usually at least the bathroom sockets are grounded . I only have in the bathroom and kitchen.

If you want to use a seperate ground rod, the same shop I gave the link to sells them. You can buy them seperately or choose the "with grounding rod" option if buying a bedmat. I should mention that even that is not necessary. My previous house was a single house so I just bought 20 meters of regular cable that I threw out the window and attached to an old powerdrill part that i hammered into the ground. All connections to the ground will work.

(the only theoretical way to harm yourself is to use to grounding points at the same time. like the socket for a foot mat and your own rod for a patch and were them at the same time - 99.99 times its still safe but if for some insane unluck a powercables comes loose at exactly that time then you could have the charge go through you- but that is a pretty weird setup and not something one is likely to do. - it goes under the heading of "everything is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough" :D

hope this helps
 

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mate theres no serious symptoms putting on the balls but I put a drop of keto dht inside the weener hole and it stang like crazy for several minutes and i had burning painful urination for that day and the next.
Well, lidocaine is a local anesthetic and aside from numbness, I never had issues.
 

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Dear Fred, there sis evidence that 5HT in higher levels in the CNS helps to increase the latency to orgasm, let me upload a file..
Maybe it’s not so much 5HT levels, perhaps it’s the active or under active 5HT2C or 2B or 1A receptors.
 
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Men, or women who have had partners with PE, what in your experience helped? Or conversely, women with partners with delayed ejaculation, or men with delayed ejaculation, what are some characteristics/habits in your experience that people with delayed ejaculation have that others don't?

Looking more for systemic solutions, as opposed to in-the-moment techniques.

Avoiding porn has been a frequent suggestion in the past on here, but I was hoping to get other suggestions as well.

Thanks!

My experiences demonstrated that niacin or vitamin C worked when supplemented with right before coitus (one's a histamine dump truck, the other a blocker).

But the option that never fails is 2-3 5cl shot glasses of 30-40% spirits.
 

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My experiences demonstrated that niacin or vitamin C worked when supplemented with right before coitus (one's a histamine dump truck, the other a blocker).

But the option that never fails is 2-3 5cl shot glasses of 30-40% spirits.
Sorry for the slight sidetrack - any idea why niacin is a histamin dump truck (lol)? I actually didnt know that. But that expalins why its the one of the b's I only toleratr in small doses.

Maybe they both work for you for the plain old antioxidant effect?
 
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Sorry for the slight sidetrack - any idea why niacin is a histamin dump truck (lol)? I actually didnt know that. But that expalins why its the one of the b's I only toleratr in small doses.

Maybe they both work for you for the plain old antioxidant effect?

Apologies, my information from orthomolecular.org seems to have been outdated. Newer texts state that prostaglandins and serotonin are primarily to blame.


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Apologies, my information from orthomolecular.org seems to have been outdated. Newer texts state that prostaglandins and serotonin are primarily to blame.


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i see. But that is weird that such a peaty substance might have a serotonergic side effect as he is really not happy about serotonin. But on the other hand so does Methylene Blue. I wonder though if you original info might be right after all..?? I dont get flushing at all I get pains and aches that feels very histaminic - thats why I took an interest. But what you post here seems legit enough. I wonder though if it was just a wild guess or they had observed heightened histamin and thus guessed it was the cause of the flushing, or if they just wildly guessed. In the first case it might still be histamin raising, just closer inspection showing that was not the mechanism behind the flush
 
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i see. But that is weird that such a peaty substance might have a serotonergic side effect as he is really not happy about serotonin. But on the other hand so does Methylene Blue. I wonder though if you original info might be right after all..?? I dont get flushing at all I get pains and aches that feels very histaminic - thats why I took an interest. But what you post here seems legit enough. I wonder though if it was just a wild guess or they had observed heightened histamin and thus guessed it was the cause of the flushing, or if they just wildly guessed. In the first case it might still be histamin raising, just closer inspection showing that was not the mechanism behind the flush

Yes, Dr. Peat writes favourably about niacin in his articles, but he seems to prefer the niacinamide form over nicotinic acid for supplementation.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xTVWMWXNpP4

Oh, and in the middle of this clip, he mentions that prostaglandin, serotonin, and histamine are released in response to niacin (nicotinic acid). So maybe histamine isn't responsible for the strict flush component but still results from mast cell response to niacin.

Connecting this back to the thread topic, I experienced that niacin would delay ejaculation but that there would be some enhanced sensation during orgasm.
 
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Yes, Dr. Peat writes favourably about niacin in his articles, but he seems to prefer the niacinamide form over nicotinic acid for supplementation.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xTVWMWXNpP4

Oh, and in the middle of this clip, he mentions that prostaglandin, serotonin, and histamine are released in response to niacin (nicotinic acid). So maybe histamine isn't responsible for the strict flush component but still results from mast cell response to niacin.

Connecting this back to the thread topic, I experienced that niacin would delay ejaculation but that there would be some enhanced sensation during orgasm.
vitamin c, zma, niacin and b vitamins combination seemed to make me multi orgasmic, but im not sure which of those it was... since I had done that even using just vitamin c, but the capabilities increased when adding in the zma and then with the niacin and b vitamins mixture...

Peat does seem to like only the niacinamide form, i cant remember why

I think niacin also had some articles saying it can make fatty liver worse, or increase insulin resistance or something
 

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vitamin c, zma, niacin and b vitamins combination seemed to make me multi orgasmic, but im not sure which of those it was... since I had done that even using just vitamin c, but the capabilities increased when adding in the zma and then with the niacin and b vitamins mixture...

Peat does seem to like only the niacinamide form, i cant remember why

I think niacin also had some articles saying it can make fatty liver worse, or increase insulin resistance or something
so a pro histamine stack
 

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I don't have any experience with this drug, but the OTC cough suppressant dextromethorphan (typically abused for its cheap high) supposedly prevents PE.
The effect of a single 30mg dose is said to last up to 4 days. In higher doses, users report that they become unable to ejaculate for 4-5 days.
For comparison, the usual dose for cough is 60 - 120mg per day. Other NMDA receptor antagonist likely have the same effect.
Googling "dxm premature ejaculation" will return a lot of results.
There are even patents filed for its use to treat PE.
I don't know anything about its safety or toxicity.
 

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Some aspects are pro-histamine yes but mainly this stack speeds up the metabolism, increasing sympathetic activation, reducing time to orgasm.
which stack, the one i mentioned? I didnt know its pro metabolic. the vitamin C also is?
i had to cut down drastically on zma/zinc supplementation, was lowering copper and possibly iron too much

but the combination of zinc with vitamin c may have been responsible ive heard vitamin c is a strong depleter too...
niacin did boost histamine too much, i would get a runny nose after eating cottage cheese or ricotta cheese or any vinegar or acidic items, that normally never happens even with tons of those cheeses

it was actually, iirc something like 60mg niacinamide 60mg niacin a day, or 80mg niacinamide 40mg niacin a day, plus 10-15mg zinc a day, 200mg magnesium or more, 3.5mg b6 pyridoxine, 8mg b6 from pyridoxal 5 phosphate

niacin/niacinamide made me tired as well, reduced my gym performance.
 

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which stack, the one i mentioned? I didnt know its pro metabolic. the vitamin C also is?
i had to cut down drastically on zma/zinc supplementation, was lowering copper and possibly iron too much

but the combination of zinc with vitamin c may have been responsible ive heard vitamin c is a strong depleter too...
niacin did boost histamine too much, i would get a runny nose after eating cottage cheese or ricotta cheese or any vinegar or acidic items, that normally never happens even with tons of those cheeses

it was actually, iirc something like 60mg niacinamide 60mg niacin a day, or 80mg niacinamide 40mg niacin a day, plus 10-15mg zinc a day, 200mg magnesium or more, 3.5mg b6 pyridoxine, 8mg b6 from pyridoxal 5 phosphate

niacin/niacinamide made me tired as well, reduced my gym performance.
Yes. Vitamin C, ZMA, B-vitamins speed up the metabolism. They just boost the metabolism by improving thyroid, ATP generation as some (the B-vitamins mostly) are vital cofactors for ATP synthesis in krebs, ETC. Vitamin C is also a cofactor for norepinephrine synthesis (main sympathetic neurotransmitter). Zinc and some B-vitamins help lower prolactin. Excess zinc has the potential to lead to eventual copper deficiency through reduced absorption.
 

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I know of several people that solved their PE by upping magnesium supplementation, up to 1gr daily.

 
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