What Supplements Do You Hate Most ?

[johnwester130]

After years reading about them, here are some of my unscientific thoughts:


Resveratrol - total garbage, always made me sleepy after taking it.
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Astaxanthin - made me stink, the capsules stink and it may not even absorb if eaten without fat. also potently reduces dht

fish oils including rat fish oil - just a scam. we all know why

goji berries - just a nothing food. most of them on the market are inedible.

raw chocolate beans - cooked chocolate simply tastes better. may be inedible in raw form

finasteride - dht doesn't cause hair loss so what's the point of this ?

spirulina/chlorella - not foods. inedible. dangerously high in iron.

chia seeds - literally inedible. even raw vegans have given up using them.

DIM/I3C - literally destroys every hormone in the body, good and bad.

quinoa - white rice has about equal nutrition and is more digestible.

raw kale, avocado and salmon - very fashionable and trendy to eat these 3 foods. maybe you could boil the kale into broth, avoid the other 2.

almond butter - doesn't even taste nice. no redeeming qualities.

inspired by this article :

5 Health Supplements That Are Bad For You

 

[x-ray peat]

probiotics - everyone now has SIBO
Mediterranean Sea Salt- Europe and Africa's porta-potty
Himalayan Salt- high iron and heavy metals yum

 

[paymanz]

Carnitine

 

[Constatine]

Noopept.

 

[johnwester130]

I never knew himalayan salt was a scam

But nothing in the industry surprises me anymore

 

[johnwester130]

Carnitine

why ? I heard it forces the body to burn fat and shuts off the thyroid ?

paleo crowd must like it

 

[paymanz]

why ? I heard it forces the body to burn fat and shuts off the thyroid ?

paleo crowd must like it

Its not peaty at all and I didn't felt good taking it few years ago.
Here Haidut has posted a few studies on it,
carnitine | Ray Peat Forum

Mildronate,a drug that lowers carnitine production in body and ray has mentioned it to be protective.also some members reported very good results with it.

 

[Herbie]

I hate anything that Charles Pelican promotes.

 

[REOSIRENS]

SSRI
Grape seed extract
Green tea extract
Vitamin B5(high doses)
Any mineral on citrate form

 

[Dante]

probiotics - everyone now has SIBO

Bro, vsl#3 saved my life when doxycycline tore my gut apart though most general probiotics are scams, the germs don't reach the colon anyways

 

[Prosper]

Any mineral on citrate form

What is the reason for this?

 

[Waynish]

I kind of hate the regular use of any supplement. I enjoy the sporadic use of a variety of supplements.

 

[kiran]

Resveratrol - total garbage, always made me sleepy after taking it.

Oddly enough, resveratrol gave me energy for about a couple hours after taking it.
Still garbage tho.

Vitamin B5

Pushes the randle cycle to fat, although it does improve fat burning. Can give a temp boost, but its bad in the long run.

 

[REOSIRENS]

What is the reason for this?

Citrate increases parathyroid hormone and feels like raising prolactin too...I prefer minerals in carbonate form or chelated glycinate .. chloride seems good as well

 

[EIRE24]

Bro, vsl#3 saved my life when doxycycline tore my gut apart though most general probiotics are scams, the germs don't reach the colon anyways

What is vsl#3? Where could I purchase this to give it a go?

 

[johnwester130]

Citrate increases parathyroid hormone and feels like raising prolactin too...I prefer minerals in carbonate form or chelated glycinate .. chloride seems good as well

is orotate good ?

 

[x-ray peat]

I just read that activated charcoal may be cancerous. not much research though

 

[johnwester130]

I would add lysine to this list

Yes it lowers nitric oxide and serotonin, it also causes cold hands and feet and a feeling of apathy

it also converts to carnitine, which the worst supplement you can take


I would add methylene blue to this list because I feel much better without it,
but it helps some people

 

[lollipop]

I would add lysine to this list

Yes it lowers nitric oxide and serotonin, it also causes cold hands and feet and a feeling of apathy

it also converts to carnitine, which the worst supplement you can take

Do you think this is true for everyone in every condition (health wise)? Or is it individual condition specific? It seems to help those with shingles and herpes.

 

[Stryker]

Noopept.

i know my own reasons but curious as to why you hate noopept?

I think this is a good thing but i hate every effect i get from aspirin lately.

Every isolated amino bar Gly/Taur/Tyr/Phe/GABA

All vitamin E supps except Mitolipin and Tocovit

Memantine

Vitamin C

Resveratrol (Makes me feel like a little b****)

Thats all i can think of ATM