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What Other Forums & Websites Do You Frequent? Looking For Interesting Websites

Discussion in 'The Ray Peat Forum Lounge' started by ReSTART, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. ReSTART

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    I mostly browse reddit & hacker news
     
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    theawesomer.com has interesting stuff sometimes
     
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    longecity.org : longevity centered site
    phoenixrising.me : A Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) and NeuroEndocrineImmune (NEI) Conditions Website.

    I don't have any such condition, but there are people there who are really well informed on the workings and connections of the human body and brain
     
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    I like https://oneradionetwork.com/ for the podcast
    some recommended guests
    Dr Jennifer Daniels
    Dr Hall Huggins
    Stephanie Seneff
    Dr Ellie Phillips

    health sites I like
    examine.com
    earthclinic
    and I second curezone
     
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    Pubmed. It's really fun to poke around on that site if you have an idea of what you want to look for. Sometimes one paper leads to like 20 other good papers! Those are the best.
     
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    Mailing list layout :geek: :books:
     
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    People actively looking for news like this are in most cases low-dopamine level individuals unconsciously trying to raise their dopamine level with novelty.
    It is the same mechanism as how in more ancient times people would explore their environment, looking for treasures and dangers.
    If you do this on a constant basis, you give your body unconsciously the feeling that it isn't safe.
    Which leads to chronically elevated stress hormones.
    You may not feel it, because it is not a big rise.
    But a small elevation in a chronic way, is even worse for your metabolism than the big elevation for only a short time.

    Your body has the feeling that it must be "alert".
    It must be alert with all the "new" things in the environment that are not yet explored.
    It may be a hidden treasure that you are finding, but it also may be some danger.

    However, because this kind of behaviour gets constantly rewarded.
    As knowing your environment is of crucial importance of survival.
    However, smart human beings, began building stuff to get out of this mode.
    They made their environment safe.
    They made sure their environment was protected from wild animals and other threats.

    In this mode, where a human feels safe and relaxed.
    And doesn't have to look for novelty all the time.
    That is the mode where humans began separating themself from other animals.
    However, in todays modern world, most people are thrown back in time.

    The only way out there is to actively stop watching news.
    Stop using social media.
    Don't work in an environment where you have to react all the time.
    It is kind of like urgency is thrown upon us modern human beings.

    Instead, get in a safe environment.
    Get an environment where you are not disturbed by anything for at least 45 min.
    No noise, not anything.
    In this time, take an interesting book.
    Maybe go read the material of Ray Peat.

    If you fail, that is normal.
    This is because of the low dopamine.
    But because people raise their dopamine by stressfull activities.
    And get addicted to that.
    It is almost impossible to get a steady good level of dopamine, from a good metabolism.

    To be honest, the reason I started this reply.
    Was because for the first time since weeks,
    I'm back in this toxic "reactive" mode, with low dopamine levels.
    Going to this forum is one thing I do when I'm in that mode.

    I probably writing the above mostly for myself.
    It is just my take about how my body works.
    It is probably not as general as stated, but I think it is true for more than only my n=1 case.
    Hope it will help someone.
     
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    It is helpful. Thank you.
     
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    sounds horribly unhealthy
     
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    I wouldn't say it is unhealthy per se.
    If the act of exploring, has a clear beginning and an end.
    You explore something, you find the treasures and the dangers,
    you make sure you deal with the dangers (kill the animal, or build a wall or whatever),
    and then there is no reason to be alert anymore, you are safe.

    However, exploring the "internet", has no end.
    The algorithms of facebook and instagram has no end.
    The constant noise of people doing phone calls next your work place has no clear end.
    The constant notifications of a mobile phone, they have no end.

    I would also not say that reading "new things" is super bad.
    Except that I wouldn't say "new" is the reason you should read it.
    In my opinion, if you are able to say: "This sounds interesting, let's save the link and read it at [some point in the future]".
    Then you are in a healthy mode proactive mode, not reacting to the environment.
    Then you don't give the feeling of urgency and stress to your system.

    If you "have to read it now", and after you have read it with half focus, go directly to the next new thing.
    Then you can be sure that you are in this low dopamine mode.
    Trying to explore the environment for dangers and treasures.
    I think it is a really toxic mode, that limits the full potential of human brain.
    In fact, I'm doing it right now.

    I can recommend: https://freedom.to for people that struggle with this as well.
     
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    Interesting stuff. Thank you
     
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    I think there is something to say for using the internet to build an environment of safety. Sometimes I think I am collecting tokens of knowledge to prepare myself for a life of safety and comfort and ease. Like this is the winter of my life or something.

    I feel like I haven’t had a clear grasp on potential dangers and in a sense my intuitive compass is broken. I don’t know whether the Internet helps or hurts though to be honest, but when you are desperate to regain a sense of health that only existed in childhood, you are drawn to desperate measures. The sense of relateability can be pretty comforting when most of the people around you in real life seem close to insane.
     
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    I get what you are saying, but Peat mentioned that rats with learned helplessness didn't want to explore. I can vouch for that, as when I was a child, I just wanted to go explore and do stuff, be active. I'd say exploration and desire to learn new things and create things is a sign of high dopamine. Having to be somewhere safe and be inactive would have driven me nuts. But constantly wanting to refresh facebook and wanting to see what someone is posting on twitter is more a sign of low dopamine.
     
  19. Mufasa

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    I guess we have here three different forms of activity:
    * inactive
    * reactive
    * proactive

    In my opinion, a high dopamine mode leads to proactivity, or inactivity (if it's tired, it naturally chills and relaxes).
    Inactivity can be a very high metabolic process if you ask me.

    Reactivity can be natural state of course, because sometimes you have to react.
    But if the persons actively searches for reactivity, I think this is where the low dopamine state presents itself.

    For example, if a child wants to play: It may go find a toy, and play with it.
    This is a proactive. The child wants to play. And it uses its imagination to play.
    It is all self initiated behaviour.
    A very high energetic state.
     
  20. Mufasa

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    The rats in the experiment are high serotonin.
    Serotonin is the natural break of the body.
    The function I believe is that it tells the body, whatever you are doing it is not working.
    I may have given you freaking a lot of dopamine in the past for this behaviour.
    But I think we should stop.
    I'm stressed out for months, this is going to kill us.
    I think the best thing to do now is inactivity.
    If you think you get rewarded by whatever, I will make so much serotonin, that you won't feel this dopamine.
    Let's stop reacting, let's stop exploring, it doesn't help us.

    However, modern humans don't stop reacting.
    It is too easy and with low energy cost to go on the internet.
    Watch videos.
    Play games.
    They don't stop.
    Our natural break is gone.

    If you are high serotonin.
    Just stop doing stuff.
    Go on holiday.
    Go lay in the sun.
    Close your eyes, while hearing the sounds of the waves.
    Eat healthy.
    This will cure high serotonin in a very short period if you ask me.
     
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