What Is The Glutamatergic Personality And Behaviour ?

[johnwester130]

"This ability is lost with aging, as the functional balance in the brain shifts away from GABA-ergic to glutamatergic nerves. The polyunsaturated fatty acids promote the excitatory nervous state."

What is the gaba - ergic personality ?

 

[lampofred]

does he mention any other ways to shift the balance back to GABA aside from restricting PUFAs?

if i had to guess, glutamatergic personality would probably be easily stressed, anxious, OCD, and autistic, whereas the gaba-ergic personality would be calm, grounded, parasympathetic dominant

 

[johnwester130]

does he mention any other ways to shift the balance back to GABA aside from restricting PUFAs?

if i had to guess, glutamatergic personality would probably be easily stressed, anxious, OCD, and autistic, whereas the gaba-ergic personality would be calm, grounded, parasympathetic dominant

gelatin, calcium, progesterone/pregnenolone/sunlight, vitamin d, thyroid etc coconut oil

 

[lampofred]

gelatin, calcium, progesterone/pregnenolone/sunlight, vitamin d, thyroid etc coconut oil

damn i already use all of these... guess i gotta start using benzos

 

[DaveFoster]

"This ability is lost with aging, as the functional balance in the brain shifts away from GABA-ergic to glutamatergic nerves. The polyunsaturated fatty acids promote the excitatory nervous state."

What is the gaba - ergic personality ?

Masculinity, including in women.

 

[DavidGardner]

Not just PUFAs, but the requirements of being a functional adult I think promote this shift. GABA in personified terms is flowy, spontaneous, not particularly driven, but stable (generally). Glutamate is alert, analytical, impulsive, neurotic-- basically what we are forced to become by work, finances, relationships, etc.

 

[LUH 3417]

Masculinity, including in women.

Do you mean physiologically or in terms of sociability? How does one have a masculine personality?

 

[DaveFoster]

Do you mean physiologically or in terms of sociability? How does one have a masculine personality?

Calm under pressure, relaxed in social situations, receptive to new ideas and people, little aggression yet maximal assertiveness and involvement in the conversation (albeit not necessarily verbose) with strong humor, charisma, and minimal emotional reactivity.

When a woman meets a man she respects relative to herself, her voice will go up in pitch and she will talk freely; similarly, a man's voice will crack or he'll say little (although there can be occasions when he says too much.)

 

[LUH 3417]

Calm under pressure, relaxed in social situations, receptive to new ideas and people, little aggression but maximal assertiveness and involvement in the conversation with strong humor and charisma.

Hmmm. I would say both men and women can express similar styles of socializing. If you ever observe East Asian people speaking you may see what I mean. They are also less sexually dimorphic as a whole, which may lend it self to some sort of social equanimity.

 

[DaveFoster]

Hmmm. I would say both men and women can express similar styles of socializing. If you ever observe East Asian people speaking you may see what I mean. They are also less sexually dimorphic as a whole, which may lend it self to some sort of social equanimity.

Yeah, I thought that was implied. The dimorphism only exaggerates in sexually-charged situations. Although analytically intelligent, East Asians have low verbal IQ's in general and tend to reuse many words in conversation, so to generalize, there's a different dynamic in those cultures.

There's definitely less sexual dimorphism among East Asians, but at the same time Chinese and South Korean culture (but less so Japanese) tend to be materialistic, so their romance tends to base on social status and wealth, whereas European (and European-derived) cultures have greater emphasis on seduction (as with courting) and displays of wit and charisma to "woo" a desired woman. Obviously, there's overlap.

 

[LUH 3417]

Yeah, I thought that was implied. The dimorphism only exaggerates in sexually-charged situations. Although analytically intelligent, East Asians have low verbal IQ's in general and tend to reuse many words in conversation, so to generalize, there's a different dynamic in those cultures.

There's definitely less sexual dimorphism among East Asians, but at the same time Chinese and South Korean culture (but less so Japanese) tend to be materialistic, so their romance tends to base on social status and wealth, whereas European (and European-derived) cultures have greater emphasis on seduction (as with courting) and displays of wit and charisma to "woo" a desired woman. Obviously, there's overlap.

Interesting analysis. Perhaps in Asia Confucianism plays a role in marrying for wealth and status where as intelligence and beauty are more venerated in Europe. Just a thought.

 

[DaveFoster]

Interesting analysis. Perhaps in Asia Confucianism plays a role in marrying for wealth and status where as intelligence and beauty are more venerated in Europe. Just a thought.

Yes, there's certainly influences from Confucian legalism and its emphasis upon service to the family as a moral good (expressed as yi 義), and there's certainly some analysis for Daoism as being a more integrated philosophy (and non-legalistic, similar to the dichotomy of Christianity versus Judaism and Islam, albeit Daoism certainly formed a partial basis of Confucianism.)

There's no Western parallel for the dichotomy, but possibly, Daoism emphasizes being and the means, whereas Confucianism emphasizes doing and the ends (with regard to consequence-based morality.)

Still, it's important to understand the wartime context for Confucianism's birth, and in that way the Chinese crafted an authoritarian system to quell conflict and restore order, and their own mental states reflected desperation in the face of widespread famine and destruction.

 

[LUH 3417]

Yes, there's certainly influences from Confucian legalism and its emphasis upon service to the family as a moral good (expressed as yi 義), and there's certainly some analysis for Daoism as being a more integrated philosophy (and non-legalistic, similar to the dichotomy of Christianity versus Judaism and Islam, albeit Daoism certainly formed a partial basis of Confucianism.)

There's no Western parallel for the dichotomy, but possibly, Daoism emphasizes being and the means, whereas Confucianism emphasizes doing and the ends (with regard to consequence-based morality.)

Still, it's important to understand the wartime context for Confucianism's birth, and in that way the Chinese crafted an authoritarian system to quell conflict and restore order, and their own mental states reflected desperation in the face of widespread famine and destruction.

There is also an inherently feudal morality, which doesn't exactly condone the sense of individuality we have here in the West. I would imagine the low verbal IQ could be related to their conception of individual expression, where reticence could be seen as virtuous and boisterous speech may be a sign of stupidity.

Have you thought about the differences in Eastern/Western diets and GABA/glutamatergic activity?

 

[DaveFoster]

There is also an inherently feudal morality, which doesn't exactly condone the sense of individuality we have here in the West. I would imagine the low verbal IQ could be related to their conception of individual expression, where reticence could be seen as virtuous and boisterous speech may be a sign of stupidity.

Have you thought about the differences in Eastern/Western diets and GABA/glutamatergic activity?

It would be considered improper. Even generalizing Europeans doesn't carry well, as there's substantial intra-European cultural divergence.

Certainly Europeans ate more meat and fat, whereas the Chinese, for example ate more starches. Confucius recommended liberal amounts of soy sauce, a source of glutamate. Nietzsche mentioned starches as predisposing one to submit to authority, and given what we know about serotonin, there's a possible mechanism. Every culture has adapted quite well to their diet, so although phenotypes vary, there's probably a minimal jeopardization in "health," defined as maintenance of a biological system across cultures.

It's interesting to the note to the correlation between protein and fat intake with GDP, and there's a tendency to prefer rapidly digesting starches (such as wheat) and simple sugars over beans for example.

 

[LUH 3417]

It would be considered improper. Even generalizing Europeans doesn't carry well, as there's substantial intra-European cultural divergence.

Certainly Europeans ate more meat and fat, whereas the Chinese, for example ate more starches. Confucius recommended liberal amounts of soy sauce, a source of glutamate. Nietzsche mentioned starches as predisposing one to submit to authority, and given what we know about serotonin, there's a possible mechanism. Every culture has adapted quite well to their diet, so although phenotypes vary, there's probably a minimal jeopardization in "health," defined as maintenance of a biological system across cultures.

It's interesting to the note to the correlation between protein and fat intake with GDP, and there's a tendency to prefer rapidly digesting starches (such as wheat) and simple sugars over beans for example.

Next bestseller: How to Eat Your Way Self-Possession

 

[fradon]

"This ability is lost with aging, as the functional balance in the brain shifts away from GABA-ergic to glutamatergic nerves. The polyunsaturated fatty acids promote the excitatory nervous state."

What is the gaba - ergic personality ?

gaba and gluatmate are opposites
GABA is calm and GLUTAMATE IS excitatory and can make your mind race.