What Happens When A Type Two Diabetic Follows Peat Ideas And Eats A Lot Of Sugar

[ecstatichamster]

I have noticed that workouts on my lazy days (skipped meals, a lot of coffee, few carbs) are breathless, very sweaty, and produces a feeling of agitation that lingers for hours. This is in contrast to my usual workouts which are very invigorating, minimal sweat and comfortable breathing. Really does demonstrate the importance of using food to mitigate exercise stress.

EDIT - I actually forgot where I was going with this post.

It's good anyway.

 

[ecstatichamster]

Old studies show sugar of 80 to 90 or so being normal for non diabetic thin healthy people. 100 seems high but perhaps it is better.

 

[David PS]

Jason Fung, MD makes a living treating type 2 diabetes. He notes that liposuction does not work for reducing insulin resistance and that bariatric surgery does work.

Liposuction removes only subcutaneous fat. In contrast, bariatric first removes visceral fat and then subcutaneous fat. He notes that the insulin resistance is often resolved after bariatric surgery long before the subcutaneous fat loss reaches a level that would bring a person to a normal BMI. It is removing (metabolically burning-through) the visceral that is the cure for insulin resistance. Fasting is the non-surgical method to burn-through the visceral fat.

Coincidentally, bariatic surgery is profitable for the medical profession and fasting is not very profitable. Bariatrics - Surgically Enforced Fasting Jason writes extensively on his website, he has written a book and he has some very informative YouTube presentations

Fasting to clear-out fat from a fatty liver seems to be an anti-Peatarian approach. But it does seems to work.

 

[bmoores]

Isn't inhibiting lipolysis even more important @bmoores

Initially, limiting lipolysis is important. Niacinamide helps prevent release of free fatty acids. Clonidine can lower adrenaline. Salt helps lower adrenaline. Calcium and Cascara Sagrada are fatty acid synthase inhibitors.

Over time, stopping excess glycolysis became important for me. For some reason limiting glycolysis seemed to normalize my fat burning. For example, I could then survive eating very little fat, while when glycolysis was high I needed to eat a lot of fat to get by.

 

[beachbum]

Over time, stopping excess glycolysis became important for me.

How would you go about this. Sorry if this is a dumb question.

 

[Richiebogie]

Hi @bmoores,

It seems that insulin reduces blood sugar by converting starch to fat stores.

Should Type 2 diabetics on insulin beginning a Niacinamide + coffee + aspirin + salt + high fruit + coconut oil + exercise regimen cut down their insulin at the same time, or is it best for them to wait for their blood sugar to reduce as health improves before reducing insulin?

 

[bmoores]

How would you go about [lowering glycolysis] this. Sorry if this is a dumb question.

That's a smart question. I used Naltrexone on 3 occasions spaced months apart (12mg but I suggest lower 1-4mg). For a couple years I used cynoplus T3/T4. Nowdays I still use a daily small dose of Diamox (10-15mg), and I can't use thyroid in the summer because I get too hot.

It took me a couple years to try Naltrexone, wish I'd done it much sooner, profound improvements for me after a single dose. Now I realize how debilitating opioids are. My 20's were sub-par because of a few weeks using prescription opioid after an accident. Addiction to runner's high endogenous opioids did some damage as well.

I tested high dose B1 for a little while and it seemed good but then that aspect seemed to be fixed and I no longer needed it or saw much benefit. Lipoic acid was similar, couldn't tell if it was helping, seemed maybe helpful. Peat has listed other glycolysis inhibitors, for my context Naltrexone and Diamox work best. There are many other ways to boost CO2 if you don't want to use Diamox, such as baking soda, CO2 gas absorbed through skin, baths, bag breathing, Buteyko, meditative breathing, free diver training, living at altitude, etc.

 

[bmoores]

Hi @bmoores,

It seems that insulin reduces blood sugar by converting starch to fat stores.

Should Type 2 diabetics on insulin beginning a Niacinamide + coffee + aspirin + salt + high fruit + coconut oil + exercise regimen cut down their insulin at the same time, or is it best for them to wait for their blood sugar to reduce as health improves before reducing insulin?

After carb restriction, I had trouble producing insulin, high blood sugar 200+ upon waking, high cortisol, and almost double the normal serum level of Lactate dehydrogenase. Many people testing ketosis get high blood sugar and insulin resistance, according to their message boards.

I've never used insulin, and don't think a person using orange juice, apple juice, or guava juice would need to take as much insulin. I haven't studied much about insulin. Peat mentioned a honey experiment, where the free form glucose and fructose produced a bit higher insulin response than a normal sucrose, resulting in a bit more insulin, and he mentioned that was anti-inflammatory and healing in that context. I would read or listen to Chris Masterjohn's work on insulin and AGE's.

In the context of being starch free, I tolerated high blood sugar ok. Progesterone is said to safely stabilize blood sugar at a higher level, my serum progesterone was zero and supplementing a little bit helped me. I've never tested HbN1c or any glycation markers (more a sign of PUFA oxidation). High blood sugar may have contributed to much higher lactate production when I was stuck in glycolysis. Stopping glycolysis sooner would have made the healing much faster and prevented the aching and inflammation I experienced for a time. My blood sugar and insulin production is back down to normal now. Cortisol much lower and still working to minimize. Metabolism much higher, calorie consumption more than double what it was in my 20's.

While increasing metabolism, I ignored temporary fat gain and focused on getting enough calories. And I was my fattest for a few months, but still not more than average, probably 20-30% body fat. Gradually lowering fat intake, lowering glycolysis, and lowering adrenaline (antibiotic), has put me pretty lean again in spite of eating 2-3x the recommended calories for my weight and age.

Caffeine is a safe way to lower blood sugar. Pregnenolone and red light help lower cortisol, which was the main driver of blood sugar for me. Lowering gut lactate and endotoxin production is very important, as is avoiding eating lactic acid, lactate being a driver of insulin resistance.

 

[sladerunner69]

So whatever happened to the type 2 so-called "diabetic"? (Peat's words lols)

Did he died?

 

[Richiebogie]

Thanks for your replies @bmoores. It is great that you have found a solution. Interesting how much you eat.

I have a 79 year old friend who eats low fat & low sugar but seems to eat a bit of protein and starch. He has high blood sugar and is given a lot of insulin.

It seems he has too many carers for me to have any lasting influence on him. He pays for 2 carers from 8am to 8pm and another 2 carers from 8pm to 8am. He also sees many specialists!

I gave him a glass of banana and mango and coconut smoothie before his lunch a few weeks back and then he happened to order an Italian ice cream dessert which came with some espresso coffee to pour on top. He then wanted and managed to get out of his wheelchair and walk like Frankenstein's monster for a few meters with me keeping him balanced.

I don't think his memory is good enough to put it all together. I will remind him of these things each time I see him!

Re: Naltrexone & Opioids. A researcher in 1979 reported that giving opium to puppies made them insular and autistic. He found that giving them naltrexone reversed the affect. He recommended giving it to autistic children. Recently many parents have found that restricting gluten and dairy helps resolve their child's autism spectrum symptoms. I believe gluten has 15 opium-like peptides, common milk with A1 protein has another, spinach & soy may also have some! Perhaps these autism-prone children cannot break down these peptides before they get into their nervous systems...

 

[bmoores]

Thanks for your replies @bmoores. It is great that you have found a solution. Interesting how much you eat.

I have a 79 year old friend who eats low fat & low sugar but seems to eat a bit of protein and starch. He has high blood sugar and is given a lot of insulin.

It seems he has too many carers for me to have any lasting influence on him. He pays for 2 carers from 8am to 8pm and another 2 carers from 8pm to 8am. He also sees many specialists!

I gave him a glass of banana and mango and coconut smoothie before his lunch a few weeks back and then he happened to order an Italian ice cream dessert which came with some espresso coffee to pour on top. He then wanted and managed to get out of his wheelchair and walk like Frankenstein's monster for a few meters with me keeping him balanced.

I don't think his memory is good enough to put it all together. I will remind him of these things each time I see him!

Re: Naltrexone & Opioids. A researcher in 1979 reported that giving opium to puppies made them insular and autistic. He found that giving them naltrexone reversed the affect. He recommended giving it to autistic children. Recently many parents have found that restricting gluten and dairy helps resolve their child's autism spectrum symptoms. I believe gluten has 15 opium-like peptides, common milk with A1 protein has another, spinach & soy may also have some! Perhaps these autism-prone children cannot break down these peptides before they get into their nervous systems...

Glad your friend enjoys the good stuff.

I think the opioid activity of BCM-7 from A1 is minor. In this study they were using a 600X extract and: "The isolated opioid proved to be about 250-times less active than normorphine or methionine-enkephalin in this assay system. "
"The inhibition of the contractions of the guinea pig ileum preparation as elicited by the opioid substance could be blocked or abolished by the specific opiate antagonist (—)-naloxone. "
https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/bc...hm2.1979.360.2.1211/bchm2.1979.360.2.1211.xml

That's the only study I checked, but I sometimes drink a gallon of milk a day and I'm regular like clockwork after each meal. I don't notice any opioid-like effects comparable to morphine, vicodin, opium, or runner's high. I might experiment with A2 to see if I notice any difference.

For me, gut endotoxin, lactic acid, and serotonin are bigger issues. For most people, it could be the 100 trillion bacteria in 4 lbs of putrefying waste internal.

 

[ecstatichamster]

My belief is that if you do a bit of liver cleanse, then you go very low fat and high sugar and starch, your diabetes will go away in a couple of weeks. I don't think it's harmful either, because high blood sugar temporarily isn't going to hurt you. I think it's been established in recent studies that advanced glycation endproducts are actually made from pufas...that it's not from sugar.

 

[Richiebogie]

@bmoores did you go gluten free? The food opioids may only affect a few people, but there are other issues with grains like phytates and lectins which can cause different issues from person to person.

I found that when I gave up grain, nuts and seeds my foot rashes cleared up over 6 weeks, and tartar buildup on my teeth stopped.

@ecstatichamster Do you think you need to go low protein too to beat diabetes? Eg the high sugar Fruitarians believe they must keep protein and fat to 10% of calories each or less, and carbs 80% of calories or more!

 

[EIRE24]

@bmoores did you go gluten free? The food opioids may only affect a few people, but there are other issues with grains like phytates and lectins which can cause different issues from person to person.

I found that when I gave up grain, nuts and seeds my foot rashes cleared up over 6 weeks, and tartar buildup on my teeth stopped.

@ecstatichamster Do you think you need to go low protein too to beat diabetes? Eg the high sugar Fruitarians believe they must keep protein and fat to 10% of calories each or less, and carbs 80% of calories or more!

Would you consider white rice a grain? Also did you give up all starch?

 

[ecstatichamster]

@ecstatichamster Do you think you need to go low protein too to beat diabetes? Eg the high sugar Fruitarians believe they must keep protein and fat to 10% of calories each or less, and carbs 80% of calories or more!

I don't think so at all.

I think PUFAs are the big obstacle.

 

[bmoores]

@bmoores did you go gluten free? The food opioids may only affect a few people, but there are other issues with grains like phytates and lectins which can cause different issues from person to person.

I found that when I gave up grain, nuts and seeds my foot rashes cleared up over 6 weeks, and tartar buildup on my teeth stopped.

I'm starch free. No gluten.

During my disastrous carb restriction experiments, the benefits I did see were due to eliminating grains and gluten. My joint stiffness and body inflammation disappeared. I was still eating nuts and then the carb restriction gave me diabetes.

 

[Regina]

So whatever happened to the type 2 so-called "diabetic"? (Peat's words lols)

Did he died?

(he deeden died).

 

[sladerunner69]

(he deeden died).

He didnt? Or he indeed did? Lol

 

[Braveheart]

He's, as they say here..."hard to dead"

 

[Richiebogie]

Would you consider white rice a grain? Also did you give up all starch?

Yes, I consider rice is a grain. It looks like white rice causes less damage than wheat, but I avoid it anyhow.

I eat sweet potato about once a week. I seem to have the most energy in the pool after eating fruit and starch!

This seems to be the kitavan way of doing things. Their young dancers have curly hair and lean bodies.

I may have eaten the wrong things in my first 45 years. However, maybe I will look like this when I turn 90?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7c/c7/9c/7cc79cce9a448aaae0edc9e606d0855b.jpg

(Hopefully I will look more like the guys than the girls).