1. SALE EXTENDED!!! Thanksgiving Sale 10% Off LifeGivingStore.com Till Monday December 9th @ Midnight With Coupon Code: THANKS2019
    Click Here!
    Dismiss Notice

What Does Ray Peat Think About UHT Milk?

Discussion in 'Milk' started by Logan-, Sep 20, 2018.

  1. Logan-

    Logan- Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2018
    Messages:
    634
    Gender:
    Male
    What does Ray Peat think about UHT milk? Is it worse than the other kinds?
     
  2. mistermr

    mistermr Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    Great question.

    For me, UHT milk is hell. It gives me digestive issues as if I had eaten gluten. Zero bowel movement.

    It is dead milk to me.

    The lactose is probably completely destroyed in UHT milk. I remember Ray Peat mentioning that lactose is good for digestion so I think that's a big factor for people with sensitive digestion. Not sure what happens to the proteins in UHT milk though
     
  3. mujuro

    mujuro Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    663
    UHT milk is also awful for me. I don’t know of anything that produces such a strong allergic response in me. My skin, especially on my face, erupts in tiny little bumps. I’ve only ever had it once, when we had $20 to spend on our weekly groceries, so it was definitive.
     
  4. tara

    tara Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2014
    Messages:
    9,930
    Gender:
    Female
    I don't know that I can find the quote, but IIRC, he's said that some people can tolerate UHT milk better than other forms.
    He's also said that if people have trouble with milk from one source, sometimes milk from a different farm will be OK for them if the plants the cows are eating don't have the same allergens. And that people with lactose intolerance can sometimes build their lactase production up by very gradually reintroducing milk in very small quantities/increments. In general, he seems to favour finding forms of milk that one personally tolerates, noting that it can differ from person to person.
     
  5. OP
    Logan-

    Logan- Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2018
    Messages:
    634
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks.
     
  6. Prota

    Prota Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2016
    Messages:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    Last year i asked him about UHT milk, he said it's ok!
     
  7. OP
    Logan-

    Logan- Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2018
    Messages:
    634
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks.
     
  8. D Man

    D Man Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2018
    Messages:
    18
    They sell a brand called Asana where I live (Spain) it’s a. Swiss alpine milk organic

    It is UHT but tastes great

    For the people having trouble with UHT try a little bit of sugar to sweeten with cocoa powder - the taste has quite often been the difference maker for me. Any peat inspired foods that I don’t enjoy eating becomes a struggle and thus the benefits seem to diminish over time

    Carrot salad is another thing - I used to hate the taste of carrot on its own, now I use a bit of ACV And manchego cheese and i can’t get enough of them.
     

    Attached Files:

  9. Mauritio

    Mauritio Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2018
    Messages:
    1,002
    Gender:
    Male
    haidut and danny also said in one of their recent podcasts that UHT milk is sometimes superior digestable, IIRC because some enzymes that create problems have been removed ...
     
  10. Inaut

    Inaut Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2017
    Messages:
    996
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks for OP and keeping this thread alive. I drink about 1L a day and imo can’t be beat in terms of nutrient density/digestibility. I’ve noticed that mistakenly I’ve bought UHT milk and had a natural preference to it.
     
  11. Mauritio

    Mauritio Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2018
    Messages:
    1,002
    Gender:
    Male
    do you drink low or full fat UHT milk ?
     
  12. Inaut

    Inaut Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2017
    Messages:
    996
    Gender:
    Male
    Full fat or 2%.

    I don’t enjoy the taste of skim milk
     
  13. Soren

    Soren Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2016
    Messages:
    809
    Gender:
    Male
    I've personally never had a problem with UHT milk. I live on an island with very little dairy production so UHT is pretty much the only option.

    I drink a lot of it.
     
  14. tankasnowgod

    tankasnowgod Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2014
    Messages:
    2,504
    Gender:
    Male
    I tried some (the Costco brand) after that, and found that it was just as easy (if not easier) to digest as the other organic milk I was drinking. It also keeps a lot longer. The expiration date is like a month or month and a half later than the other brand of milk I was drinking.
     
  15. foodandtheworld

    foodandtheworld Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2018
    Messages:
    137
    Gender:
    Male
    UHT milk has also been a godsend for me. Just had 1 liter for 'lunch' the other day and had no digestive problems.
     
Loading...