What do we know untill now about autism solutions,treatment?

llian

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I am fairly new to this forum even tho i lurked for some time here before making an account.

Long story short i found out i suffer from ASD even tho i was self-diagnosed for a good time. This affected my life on different ocassions i will not get into it, mostly in social settings.

So... i've been gathering infos,studies since then about this neuro disease and how to cure it.

This is all i could found:

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*First get tested for:
Adhd - ? (Also self-diagnosed)
Autism - positive (diagnosed recently)
Aspenger
Food test
Blood test
23andme genes

*Dealing with:
-Can’t understand social cues
-Can’t relate to your peers
-Weird or niche interests that put others off
-Can’t read body language
-Having a short attention span
-Making careless mistakes

• Resume:
Fecal Transplant
Speech Therapy
CBT
Gutmaxx
Exposure
HDAC 2 Inhib

• Lower inhibition:
~Memantine 20g a day/ 3 weeks|repeat every 3 months
~Meditation 30 min ED (amygdala)
~Shrooms 0.25g every third day (amygdala)
~Propanolol/Lexapro + Magn l-Threonate with exposure
~ED Lifestyle: -MMA classes
-No fap/No porn
~Blood check for Testosterone. If low cruise
~Cycle EGCG, take ashwagandha, take l-Theanine

• Potential aspenger cure:
◇Inhibit HDAC2
-Supplement Butyrate Sodium,Inulin,Resveratrol
-Vorinostat - 150mg (3 weeks on , 6 weeks off)
-Curcumin , sulphoraphane, NAC 800mg 3x/day ED
*While doing this do heavy exposure and meditating

◇Also:
- Get genetic testing and if you have a polymorphism in the MTHFR gene supplement with L-methylfolate
- Lower NMDA receptor stimulation through N-acetylglucosamine (NAG)
- Occasional use of GABA agonists and upregulating the receptors with Bacopa Monnieri
- Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation(TMS)
- Nasal oxytocin ED
• Gutmaxx:
▪︎First:
>Go to a good Gastroenterologists
>Test microbiota(blood,urine,stool)
>antibiotics cure
>do blood test for intolerances/deficiences
>correct your diet

▪︎Alter gut bacteria:
☆Fecal Transplant
》Fluconazole - destroys bad bacteria
》BPC-157 (250mcg 2x/d) - gut-brain axis
》TB-500 (750mcg 1x/d). Tb+bpc 8 weeks together
》Intermittent fasting - starve bad bacteria
》No sugar,no gluten,no diary,low carb
》glutamine 5g/day for repairing gut barrier
》Enemas with Probiotics & ACV - repopulate bacteria
》Enema with honey - feed good bacteria
》Colostrum
》Take Lactobacillus plantarum and Bifidobacterium probiotics EOD with Greek yogurt, blueberries, organic honey, kefir
》Supplement Sulphoraphane with Curcumin
》Shot of apple cider vinegar and lemon juice

• Brainmaxxing:
-test for adhd - if positive get adderall
-Memory palace/mnemonic techniques
-dopamine detox
-Feynman Technique
-Mindmapping
-Revising techniques
-holotropic breathing/meditation/ wim hof
-speed reading techniques
-win wegner techniques (image streaming, windtunneling, footnoting, etc)
-playing/doing stimulating ***t like chess, Mensa testing, etc
-learning new vocabulary each day
-Ritalin when needed
-cognitive reframing exercises
-learn something hard: math, new language,biology

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Ok... i know some of this could be wrong and this is why i post it here. I want further infos about all of these and help building a perfect How to guide for this special cause.

@haidut
 
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Not sure. Maybe if you add in high dose iodine i.e. Brownstein protocol. I think Ray recommends Succinic acid.
Ty !
Soo... my protocol + chelation should achieve pretty astonishing results, right?
 

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Ty !
Soo... my protocol + chelation should achieve pretty astonishing results, right?
I don't know much about autism but some of the things you've listed have had a great impact on my health so I'm sure you'll benefit in some way. I'm not a fan of pharma drugs so I would personally ditch those and also add Sauna & limit exposure to EMF.
 

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Until we understand the truth as to 'how' our children are getting autism - we will never get a handle on it.
When my son was diagnosed in 1993 - the rate was 1 in 10,000. What is it now - 1 in 50?
They initially blamed genes - then had to change their tune as the incidence kept climbing and the genome project failed.
That would mean admitting the entire human genome is tanking (it actually is if we keep getting environmental insults).

The whole media portrayal is a psy-op: Rainman, Good Doctor, piano playing, etc. so people think it is OK.

Part of the process for me was finally realizing it (Autism) was not going to get better.
I just need to make my son comfortable and help him as much as I can.

I would not expect astonishing results in anyone that is 'mentally ill' - although sometimes just getting B vitamins can assist the right situation.

Stay compassionate.
 

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What about the potential involvement of excess Serotonin in ASD I wonder if someone with that has given it a try to anti-serotogenic substances like Tianeptine and Cyproheptadine and such and if so what benefits they got I too suspect I have Asperger's and I have had these symptoms practically since being born and I would like at least for a while to feel what it is like to have a more neurotypical type of brain and see and understand those social cues and overall hidden and nonverbal patterns that most neurotypicals notice easily on almost a daily basis.

I have somewhat managed to learn and notice some hidden meanings behind texts and sayings and sometimes even understand why someone did/said something like it has never been a problem regarding the simpler theory of mind type scenarios but when it comes to many people complex type of multi-factor involving social factors with many hidden and nonverbal social cues and such I still often might only realize and understand the hidden non-verbal social cues after a longer time.

I wonder if decreased brain interconnectivity could be involved in this.
 

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The most promising treatment for ASD is bumetadine. Life changing for some kids
 
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The most promising treatment for ASD is bumetadine. Life changing for some kids
What about ASD in adults.. i struggle with social cues and things like that
 

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What about ASD in adults.. i struggle with social cues and things like that
I think it can also work. Check out this blog from a father of an ASD child that's on the cutting edge of pharma treatments: Epiphany
 
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What about the potential involvement of excess Serotonin in ASD I wonder if someone with that has given it a try to anti-serotogenic substances like Tianeptine and Cyproheptadine and such and if so what benefits they got I too suspect I have Asperger's and I have had these symptoms practically since being born and I would like at least for a while to feel what it is like to have a more neurotypical type of brain and see and understand those social cues and overall hidden and nonverbal patterns that most neurotypicals notice easily on almost a daily basis.

I have somewhat managed to learn and notice some hidden meanings behind texts and sayings and sometimes even understand why someone did/said something like it has never been a problem regarding the simpler theory of mind type scenarios but when it comes to many people complex type of multi-factor involving social factors with many hidden and nonverbal social cues and such I still often might only realize and understand the hidden non-verbal social cues after a longer time.

I wonder if decreased brain interconnectivity could be involved in this.
Idkk mann i heard stories that some people that took cypro got anxiety issues from it... now idk what to believe anymore. Lower the Serotonin may be a meme tbh.

The only person knows the cure here but doesnt want to tell us i guess would be @haidut for sure ?

Anyway... usually people who suffer from autism also have damaged gut and bad bacteria in their microbiota and an fecal transplant may be a solution for this, Also antibiotics and such.. ///

Another thing that can help i think could be NMDA antagonists that could inhib action of glutamate (such as Memantine) this + NAC could be helpful since nac can increase BDNF.

Also exposure is underrated i thing but without a healthy gut, hwalthy neurotransmitter, exposure is like hiding all the trash under the bed.
 
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Btw srry for being so harsh with english language lol i murder it quite bad here
 

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Many people have small signs of dementia in their 30s already. In the past that used to happen to people above 70 yo. I see in my acquaintances things which I had previously seen in pensioners when I was a child.
 

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Idkk mann i heard stories that some people that took cypro got anxiety issues from it... now idk what to believe anymore. Lower the Serotonin may be a meme tbh.

The only person knows the cure here but doesnt want to tell us i guess would be @haidut for sure ?

Anyway... usually people who suffer from autism also have damaged gut and bad bacteria in their microbiota and an fecal transplant may be a solution for this, Also antibiotics and such.. ///

Another thing that can help i think could be NMDA antagonists that could inhib action of glutamate (such as Memantine) this + NAC could be helpful since nac can increase BDNF.

Also exposure is underrated i thing but without a healthy gut, hwalthy neurotransmitter, exposure is like hiding all the trash under the bed.
have you tried serotonin antagonists? Cypro, lisuride, metergoline, ritanserin?

Everything thats helped my gut has improved my eye contact, sociability, and willingness to try new things. Got rid of anxiety/social as well.


An easy one is just adding gelatin to every soup/stew/broth.

Adding powder to shakes is ok, but can gunk them up. Some people do well with hydrolyzed stuff; ive never tried it.


Majority of it is habitual now; repairing social laziness; not caring about names, demographics, etc.


Its funny seeing how the next/newer generations are developing. I definitely relate to them more than my own generation, and try to pass on the peatisms cause it definitely has changed my life.. slowly.

1 drop cypro + meter + adamantane is a good general mix to test to avoid the tiredness that comes from cypro, and the energy that can come from the metergoline.

They also work to prevent/block the TLR4 endotoxin "receptor". I don't know if that just means youre temporarily immune, or if your body still processes it and doesnt react to the symptoms or what.
 
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have you tried serotonin antagonists? Cypro, lisuride, metergoline, ritanserin?

Everything thats helped my gut has improved my eye contact, sociability, and willingness to try new things. Got rid of anxiety/social as well.


An easy one is just adding gelatin to every soup/stew/broth.

Adding powder to shakes is ok, but can gunk them up. Some people do well with hydrolyzed stuff; ive never tried it.


Majority of it is habitual now; repairing social laziness; not caring about names, demographics, etc.


Its funny seeing how the next/newer generations are developing. I definitely relate to them more than my own generation, and try to pass on the peatisms cause it definitely has changed my life.. slowly.

1 drop cypro + meter + adamantane is a good general mix to test to avoid the tiredness that comes from cypro, and the energy that can come from the metergoline.

They also work to prevent/block the TLR4 endotoxin "receptor". I don't know if that just means youre temporarily immune, or if your body still processes it and doesnt react to the symptoms or what.
Serotonin antagonists long term doesnt cause anxiety ? I mean ... like an 5-HT2A agonist or antagonist will both not cause downregulation ?
 

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Serotonin antagonists long term doesnt cause anxiety ? I mean ... like an 5-HT2A agonist or antagonist will both not cause downregulation ?
why would that cause anxiety?

I dont think anyone has control over, or knowledge of their own receptors, densities, localized densities. Ray doesnt believe in traditional receptor theory.

My hunch is that everyone with any form of autism has digestive damage (on-top of all the other peat issues). Just look at the ingredients in processed foods, binders in everyday medicine.

Titanium in pills, Aluminum in baking powder, Inorganic forms of iron and other minerals in supplements (some are absorbed, some are like eating a rock.) Gums, Chemicals we absorb through soaps. Fluoride in the water, micro plastics in fish. Glyphosate in wheat/soy. Food colorings made from aluminum.



Until we have tech that lets us observe our own landscape conventionally, and accurately the common persons terrain, we can't make any accurate moves on those planes. Focusing on receptors is a good place to spike interest, but otherwise a holistic look at chem’s may be better to work with. That's how I started.


Digestion, wellbeing, and metabolism/temperature/heartrate are things we can control and easily measure.

I look at serotonin antagonists as things that seperate the mind from the body, like painkillers for pain. It's a lot easier to figure out a better route of healing when you aren't in a fog 24/7; which I was for year's.
 

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