What Could Be The Next Mushrooms?

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  1. Dessert_All_Day

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    Mushrooms were a relatively recent addition to the Ray Peat staple foods. Prior to Peat endorsing them, many may have assumed they weren't very "peaty." This thread is for speculation and ideas on the next foods/activities that, while currently aren't emphasized by most peatarians, could some day become common within the community.

    Feel free to post anything that comes to mind (again, even if it sounds stupid). Don't be shy--the goal is to throw some things out there that you think could be undervalued. I'll start:

    -Meditation: because of the stress reduction potential and because of the mind-body principle that most here seem to value.

    -Naps: they get a bad rap by high-cortisol, highly-strung workoholic types. Makes me think they're likely healthy.

    -Marijuana: as with starch, I'm guessing this could be compatible with a peaty lifestyle for individuals that handle it extremely well. You know who you are.
     
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    I dont know. Old Fashionned glazed donuts?
     
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    I really really hope you're right:grinning:
     
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    Haha, cool thread.
    I'm on a "using only wholesome fibers next to the body" kick...cotton, linen. Blankets too.


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  5. Wagner83

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    Power naps always felt very beneficial to me but it depends on the day and how the sleep during the night was, it can completely change mood and mental freshness in 10-30 mn.
     
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    Resistance Exercise

    (in the right context without overexertion, I know Ray isn't against it but at the moment his therapeutic suggestions don't include them, and are generally passed as ok for mild concentric ones)
     
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    Ray says plenty of muscle is very protective for the body. But at the same time he is against society's view of exercise. If this sparks his interest I would love to see what he recommends (programs).
     
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    I learnt some stuff about exercising without activating sympathetic nervous system and its measured by how much heart rate increases past resting. The fitness industry functions on putting people into sympathetic states unfortunately. I worked in a gym and heard a cycling instructor say "you've had a bad day at work well now I am going to push you into high levels of adrenaline" think like the terminator as if its a solution to a middle aged 9-5er. I find it disgusting behaviour and disrespect to fellow humans. The fitness industry is a mess.

    I think certain martial arts, tai chi, yoga and disciplines of that nature are going to maintain or increase muscle mass and not be stressful or cause injury and create good core strength.

    I think the bodybuilding industry has created an extreme and when people think muscle mass they think bodybuilders and working out for 1 hour 3-5 times a week and its over kill if health is the goal or purpose but when I look at photos of male indigenous hunters they would be looked at as being skinny by todays standards even though they actually hunted and constructed things.

    The men in the photo are small and only weigh 100 pounds but can kill and carry a bendy awkward reticulated python through the jungle which weigh 350 pounds. The difference with them and todays man is core strength. With the inflammation and sedentary lifestyles we lose the core strength which is very important for health. (core muscles relax and let go in order to allow the organs to expand)

    I totally agree with Ray about exercise and importance of concentric movements.

    Arny looked good in predator but these guys are the real hunters
     

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    For the record I'm not in optimal health but still better than quite a few people I see around me . What I would call easy exercise, a few sets of pistol squats until tired but not to failure still leads to less morning wood the day after.
     
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    I took a clip of Ray talking about this exact thing really, best way to build muscle. He mentions working in small bursts, making sure the muscle knows its been worked but not anything to make you get out of breath. He has talked a few times about the benefits of larger muscles. I think he has a positive view of weightlifting that isn't stressful, not your typical workout routine 5 day splits with long sessions.

     
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    Walking/running up stairs and taking the elevator down. Pure concentric, good for mitochondria, muscle mass etc.
     
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    I've wondered about this too from time to time. Has anyone asked Ray about fibers against the body?

    Do manmade fibers outgas or dissolve into the skin?
     
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    CBD is a P450 inhibitor, if MJ is then it would certainly have (dose dependent) negatives.
     
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    I like this idea. I nominate Cheesecake.

    I think the real new (ish) thing (at least for me) is diving into red light. Especially with all the new devices and lightbulbs coming available.
     
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    I don't get it. Is morning wood supposed to be the ultimate good? A false god, or totem, methinks.
     
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    What?
    Yes, morning wood and general ability to achieve erections are markers among others. Those are impaired temporarily by the easy exercise I mentioned.
     
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    Okay, so you're saying there is a scientific study that shows that something very healthy men have in common is that they wake up with a boner? Please point that study out. I doubt it, tho I'm open to being corrected. It may be normal for teenagers and very young men. If you asked 100 40-or-50-year-old men in excellent health (if they could be found) how many wake up with a boner, my guess is the answer would be somewhere around zero. Just guessing tho. Of course, as a 66 year old I'd like to have the health characteristics of a teenager, but it ain't gonna happen, and I'd rather not be bothered by this particular alleged health marker. I still have more libido than I'd like.

    Back on the subject of what might be the next mushrooms, maybe horsetails? Health Ranger SCIENCE: Horsetail herb prevents Alzheimer's and dementia by removing toxic ALUMINUM from your body
     
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    Yes nocturnal erections are a very important biomarker for men and health.
     
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    I noticed regular morning wood, for the first time in my life, at the time I started supplementing Magnesium and K2. I didn't even get that in my teens, and it's been pretty much daily for the last five years (currently 40). I think it generally is a sign of improved blood flow. Viagra works somewhat similarly, increasing blood flow, but does it by increasing NO, which is not good long term.
     
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    How many 40 and 50 year old men do you think are in excellent health? Essentiall none, minus the handful reading this forum. The "healthy" folk these days are following some kind of backwards, unscientific, cultural diet that is either very high pufa, very low sugar, or both.
     
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