natedawggh
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Congratulations to me, I have lost 20 lbs on a Ray Peat diet, finally! And to you nice people who suggested I might have been at a weight that was healthy for me, thank you for saying so but I have definitely been very overweight, at a 42 pant size instead of my normal 34 or 36 pant size (I"m now at 38!)
First I will say that I have completely stopped drinking (I had to go to Alcoholics Anonymous to do this). There is no way a person can lose weight or regain health while even having the occasional drink, because alcohol is so highly estrogenic.
That being said...I did not lose weight immediately and in fact realized that I had only started losing weight in correlation with a few large meals of shrimp. You can read that thread here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6167&p=73117&hilit=shrimp#p73117
I have since continued to maintain a protein balance that favors shrimp, and have continued to lose weight, and I do notice plateaus if I stop. This study pointed out by Gli;tch.e:
I also found SOME weight loss in the past when I put a tremendous effort into mixing Gelatin with every protein food I took, though that was very tedious and it did not achieve the results I've had with Taurine, but it does seem for me to confirm that a balance favoring healthy Amino Acids leads to healthy weight loss and a balance in the unhealthy ones tends to increase unhealthy weight gain. And just so no one misunderstands, this does NOT mean I have had to restrict my diet to shrimp, but I have instead ADDED a great deal of shrimp already to the protein I ingest from a diet high in dairy, potatoes, and chicken (and fruit, natural soda, and orange juice). I also consume a great deal of butter to keep up my saturated fat ratio (though experiments with fat balance or no fat in the past did nothing to alleviate my weight problems). In the past I made a great deal of bone stocks and while they were very gelatinous, I didn't experience any weight benefits so I'm not sure why that would be case except that maybe the balance wasn't great enough in the direction of taurine.
So having strategies to ensure that the balance of Amino Acids from protein sources greatly favors Glycine, Taurine, Proline, lysine, (especially Taurine!) over the ones that dominate muscle meats seems to be the key to losing weight. If anyone has any other ideas besides eating loads of shrimp (because I know I'mg going to get tired of them!) I'd love to hear it!
First I will say that I have completely stopped drinking (I had to go to Alcoholics Anonymous to do this). There is no way a person can lose weight or regain health while even having the occasional drink, because alcohol is so highly estrogenic.
That being said...I did not lose weight immediately and in fact realized that I had only started losing weight in correlation with a few large meals of shrimp. You can read that thread here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6167&p=73117&hilit=shrimp#p73117
I have since continued to maintain a protein balance that favors shrimp, and have continued to lose weight, and I do notice plateaus if I stop. This study pointed out by Gli;tch.e:
Prompted me to purchase taurine and glycine. I have been taking both with every protein food I ingest: Milk, chicken, potatoes, as well as shrimp. I don't notice so much help from the free glycine, but I definitely feel different when using Taurine (and indeed it is the only amino acid shown to reduce water retention in cellular uptake, which is essentially what stimulates fat storage). I haven't noticed that I can eat whatever I want, however, and include Taurine. Protein is best assimilated whole and not individual amino acids, and so the shrimp is probably the best source I have been eating, but I have noticed an assisted effect by the supplementary Taurine. One of the main effects is the feeling that my fatty/bloated liver and lower intestinal inflammation has been subsiding quickly, and I've been experiencing a feeling of lightness in my lower abdomen that has been missing for some years.Gl;itch.e said:Interesting observation.
This study suggests that the higher potential glycine and taurine in shellfish is possibly helping
http://www.ergo-log.com/best-high-prote ... ycine.html
I also found SOME weight loss in the past when I put a tremendous effort into mixing Gelatin with every protein food I took, though that was very tedious and it did not achieve the results I've had with Taurine, but it does seem for me to confirm that a balance favoring healthy Amino Acids leads to healthy weight loss and a balance in the unhealthy ones tends to increase unhealthy weight gain. And just so no one misunderstands, this does NOT mean I have had to restrict my diet to shrimp, but I have instead ADDED a great deal of shrimp already to the protein I ingest from a diet high in dairy, potatoes, and chicken (and fruit, natural soda, and orange juice). I also consume a great deal of butter to keep up my saturated fat ratio (though experiments with fat balance or no fat in the past did nothing to alleviate my weight problems). In the past I made a great deal of bone stocks and while they were very gelatinous, I didn't experience any weight benefits so I'm not sure why that would be case except that maybe the balance wasn't great enough in the direction of taurine.
So having strategies to ensure that the balance of Amino Acids from protein sources greatly favors Glycine, Taurine, Proline, lysine, (especially Taurine!) over the ones that dominate muscle meats seems to be the key to losing weight. If anyone has any other ideas besides eating loads of shrimp (because I know I'mg going to get tired of them!) I'd love to hear it!