MetabolicTrash
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Is there any good evidence of voice tone/pitch/etc. and health status in some way? It must be affected by things hormonally/developmentally/etc.
Anecdotally there seems to be. Usually when people are pretty metabolically ill or hypo or suffering from some other serious condition they're probably bound to have weaker voices since the vocal chords are possibly bound to be weaker as well. A good example of this is the stereotypical "old person" who is bedridden or highly inactive with the shrill or "dying" type of voice we think of when picturing someone elderly. It can be confusing since some people have always had these types of voices (like Ray Peat -- no offense) but aren't necessarily unhealthy because of it despite people thinking it may be a sign of poorer health.
There are other elements at play such as hormones and development and maintenance of the various "co-factors" in voice too (posture; breathing; even mood/confidence somewhat too). There is lots of "evidence" floating around where people claim simply high testosterone is what makes deep/powerful or "heavy" voices, but this theory seems to flatline when you look at some pro bodybuilders who still don't have deep voices despite lots of anabolic/androgenic hormones and such over years. Clearly it's not simply just taking steroids in every case that results in voice changes -- often times I hear of much more subtle changes that induce it than dramatic ones (like simply fixing metabolism/eating more better foods/taking certain supplementation/fixing depleted nutrients or such and etc.).
So I am unsure and not sure if any others can definitively figure what makes ones voice weaker or stronger or heavier or lighter or etc. I know there has to be some correlation with health, as why else would lots of hypo/weakened/sick and very old people tend to have more "shrill" or just blunted type voices more often than not?
Another thing I notice that can tell someone's voice depth/deepness/tone is probably their cough. I've heard some people cough with a thunderous-like resonance and others like a little puppy. It's similar in males and females -- guys with the "deep, manly, thunderous/booming" voices go in part with women who have heavier/prominent but still feminine-like voices too, matching with the "wimpy guy" voice and the "shrieking, girly-ish/frail" undertones in some women too. I'm just wondering what this is and what factors are at play here overall. Is it not just thyroid and testosterone? What other conditions play a role in voice?
I ask because it's not set in stone -- many people's voices are bound to change especially if they clean up a really poor diet or start lifting weights and have a more balanced hormonal profile and such. My voice used to be nasally/wimpy, all the way to a lightly more "heavy" voice for a brief period of time, now back to somewhere in the middle. Nothing extreme, but I have noticed changes & believe various things influence it lifelong; it's often a way people tend to judge health (think of the "sick voice" for example).
Anecdotally there seems to be. Usually when people are pretty metabolically ill or hypo or suffering from some other serious condition they're probably bound to have weaker voices since the vocal chords are possibly bound to be weaker as well. A good example of this is the stereotypical "old person" who is bedridden or highly inactive with the shrill or "dying" type of voice we think of when picturing someone elderly. It can be confusing since some people have always had these types of voices (like Ray Peat -- no offense) but aren't necessarily unhealthy because of it despite people thinking it may be a sign of poorer health.
There are other elements at play such as hormones and development and maintenance of the various "co-factors" in voice too (posture; breathing; even mood/confidence somewhat too). There is lots of "evidence" floating around where people claim simply high testosterone is what makes deep/powerful or "heavy" voices, but this theory seems to flatline when you look at some pro bodybuilders who still don't have deep voices despite lots of anabolic/androgenic hormones and such over years. Clearly it's not simply just taking steroids in every case that results in voice changes -- often times I hear of much more subtle changes that induce it than dramatic ones (like simply fixing metabolism/eating more better foods/taking certain supplementation/fixing depleted nutrients or such and etc.).
So I am unsure and not sure if any others can definitively figure what makes ones voice weaker or stronger or heavier or lighter or etc. I know there has to be some correlation with health, as why else would lots of hypo/weakened/sick and very old people tend to have more "shrill" or just blunted type voices more often than not?
Another thing I notice that can tell someone's voice depth/deepness/tone is probably their cough. I've heard some people cough with a thunderous-like resonance and others like a little puppy. It's similar in males and females -- guys with the "deep, manly, thunderous/booming" voices go in part with women who have heavier/prominent but still feminine-like voices too, matching with the "wimpy guy" voice and the "shrieking, girly-ish/frail" undertones in some women too. I'm just wondering what this is and what factors are at play here overall. Is it not just thyroid and testosterone? What other conditions play a role in voice?
I ask because it's not set in stone -- many people's voices are bound to change especially if they clean up a really poor diet or start lifting weights and have a more balanced hormonal profile and such. My voice used to be nasally/wimpy, all the way to a lightly more "heavy" voice for a brief period of time, now back to somewhere in the middle. Nothing extreme, but I have noticed changes & believe various things influence it lifelong; it's often a way people tend to judge health (think of the "sick voice" for example).
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