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This should be good but the adenosine thing is not so good I think.It’s a HDAC inhibitor also.
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This should be good but the adenosine thing is not so good I think.It’s a HDAC inhibitor also.
I am glad I saw this post. I have been using a sleepytime extra time with valerian; I notice I do not sleep well asI get insomnia from it! Definitely excitatory for me.
I add beef gelatin to the teas; it helps.I haven’t taken Phenibut, that agonizes GABA-B receptors though, and it’s associated with discontinuation syndromes.
The insomnia one gets from Valerian is uniquely non stimulant like, simply toss and turn. I’ve experienced it, but the effect also reverted back to sedating/hypnotic after time. Can’t say for sure why this occurs. There’s virtually nothing online either as to why, that I believe is conclusively strong at least. Even if I were to speculate why I think it happened to me, and what I think changed it back to sedative, is just speculation. I take time off from it, overall, it’s effectiveness online is rated so so. That’s because it can work great, then not work. Is that tolerance? I don’t know. Overall, give it a shot. Kava is good if you get the real deal, and it ironically upregulates GABA - A over time. Valerian, and Kava are bar none, the strongest herbal hypnotics. Chamomile is weak, lemon balm is nice, but no Valerian, Passionflower also hits GABA via mild MAO-I.