Vaccine Passports. Is this the End of Society

Perry Staltic

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Most of my Chicago friends are true believer liberals. But lately, I am getting emails from them like, "I hate this place. I'm gonna walk to Florida to get away from this s%$#%$."

No, no, nooooo. Tell them to stay away from FL. Lots of poisonous critters there , hateful heat and humidity, rednecks that will eat their children, etc.
 

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It seems crazy this would even be a thing but it totally is
I'm not crazy about the idea of vaccine passports but in reality hasn't this already been a thing for a long time? Don't you need certain vaccines to attend public schools and universities?
 

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I'm not crazy about the idea of vaccine passports but in reality hasn't this already been a thing for a long time? Don't you need certain vaccines to attend public schools and universities?
Please post evidence that mRNA and spike protein therapy have been previously used and demanded to attend public schools and universities.
 

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JUST IN - World Health Organisation (WHO) reiterates its rejection of compulsory vaccination certificates. It is uncertain as to whether vaccinations prevent the transmission of #COVID19, cites WHO spokesperson Harris.

 

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“As tens of millions are inoculated against Covid-19, officials in places as diverse as New York state, Israel and China have introduced “vaccine passports,” and there’s talk of making them universal. The idea is simple: Once you’ve received your shots, you get a document or phone app, which you flash to gain entry to previously locked-down venues—restaurants, theaters, sports arenas, offices, schools.

It sounds like a way of easing coercive lockdown restrictions, but it’s the opposite. To see why, consider dining. Restaurants in most parts of the U.S. have already reopened, at limited capacity in some places. A vaccine passport would prohibit entry by potential customers who haven’t received their shots. It would restrict the freedom even of those who have: If you’re vaccinated but your spouse isn’t, forget about dining out as a couple.

Planes and trains, which have continued to operate throughout the pandemic, would suddenly be off-limits to the unvaccinated. The only places where restrictions would be relatively eased would be those still fully locked down, such as many live-event venues and schools. Yet even there, the passport idea depends on keeping the underlying restrictions in place—giving officials an incentive to do so for much longer as leverage to overcome vaccine resistance.

The vaccine passport should therefore be understood not as an easing of restrictions but as a coercive scheme to encourage vaccination. Such measures can be legitimate: Many schools require immunization against common childhood illnesses, and visitors to some African countries must be vaccinated against yellow fever. But Covid vaccine passports would harm, not benefit, public health.”

 

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“As tens of millions are inoculated against Covid-19, officials in places as diverse as New York state, Israel and China have introduced “vaccine passports,” and there’s talk of making them universal. The idea is simple: Once you’ve received your shots, you get a document or phone app, which you flash to gain entry to previously locked-down venues—restaurants, theaters, sports arenas, offices, schools.

It sounds like a way of easing coercive lockdown restrictions, but it’s the opposite. To see why, consider dining. Restaurants in most parts of the U.S. have already reopened, at limited capacity in some places. A vaccine passport would prohibit entry by potential customers who haven’t received their shots. It would restrict the freedom even of those who have: If you’re vaccinated but your spouse isn’t, forget about dining out as a couple.

Planes and trains, which have continued to operate throughout the pandemic, would suddenly be off-limits to the unvaccinated. The only places where restrictions would be relatively eased would be those still fully locked down, such as many live-event venues and schools. Yet even there, the passport idea depends on keeping the underlying restrictions in place—giving officials an incentive to do so for much longer as leverage to overcome vaccine resistance.

The vaccine passport should therefore be understood not as an easing of restrictions but as a coercive scheme to encourage vaccination. Such measures can be legitimate: Many schools require immunization against common childhood illnesses, and visitors to some African countries must be vaccinated against yellow fever. But Covid vaccine passports would harm, not benefit, public health.”

Horrible and grotesque that they are even normalizing this scheme as even a discussion point.

The ole People are dirty ploy.
 

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Is this the End of Society​


No,it's the end of western concept of living. The east has prototyped this form of existence for a long time and the leaders have found that even when many perish, some survive and make up a new generation of society that function more machine-like

Because individualistic people who have many personal cravings are much more inefficient than people who truly enjoy a machine-like existence and don't need restaurants, bars, movies, etc. to be satisfied. The philosophy is similar to outsourcing jobs, someone who demands $15 an hour to do the same quality of work as someone else who needs only $0.30 an hour consumes too many resources and is too inefficient to survive in the long-run.

No company enjoys firing its domestic workers and outsourcing jobs but it has to be efficient in order to survive; so the only solution is for the domestic workers to have such valuable skills that it's not possible to outsource their work.
 
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No company enjoys firing its domestic workers and outsourcing jobs but it has to be efficient in order to survive; so the only solution is for the domestic workers to have such valuable skills that it's not possible to outsource their work.
There exists absolutely zero such skills. You need to be pretty brainwashed if you think you can teach american workers something that chinese workers cannot be taught. Any and all such special skills are highly guarded secrets in intelligence agencies, high-level government researchers etc. Not something you train a normal worker in.
 

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Tennessee and Alabama are joining the no vax passport movement. Not sure if this is just for optics for now or reality. Good news somewhere. I may not be able to travel to europe but hopefully I will have options within the US and/or parts of latin America....
 

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There exists absolutely zero such skills. You need to be pretty brainwashed if you think you can teach american workers something that chinese workers cannot be taught. Any and all such special skills are highly guarded secrets in intelligence agencies, high-level government researchers etc. Not something you train a normal worker in.

The US's superior education system and healthy lifestyle through activity and diet will lead the citizenry to be 5x more efficient than those in other countries that are 4x cheaper.

On a serious note, the jobs that stayed are locale dependent. There are a lot of things that are locale dependent apart from the obvious plumber and such jobs. The security of knowing where someone lives and the ability to go and grab them is quite important for a number of roles (financial advisors, server administrators, etc).
 

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“Individualistic people who have many personal cravings”... idk how someone automatically combines those two traits and states it so authoritatively.
 

Perry Staltic

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“Individualistic people who have many personal cravings”... idk how someone automatically combines those two traits and states it so authoritatively.

It's an example of the half-baked mental development produced in schools these days.
 

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I have just read a story in newspaper, later in facebook message.
A Hungarian citizen received her vaccine card by post. She fled to holidays and spent her time there without problem. No place is added, where she has been. When she arrived to Budapest Airport back (Hungary), authorities requested her vaccines card, she presented it, however, she received a paper for 10 days caranteen.
 
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